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That was my thought! I say to Maclane standing up for himself! Maybe it wasn't the best way to do it in school, but I certainly don't think he should be punished.
And I definitely think the other boy should be held accountable!
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I think there's a difference between standing up for yourself and responding in an appropriate manner.
Verbal bullying needs a verbal response -- either from the person being bullied or from a person of authority.
A physical response should be saved for a physical bullying, IMHO. That way, if the school has a no-tolerance policy for physical altercations, both parties will be punished. The repurcussions today for physical violence aren't what they were when I was a kid -- lawyers get involved around here!
As for standing up to other kids, or putting off physical bullying, I can't say enough great things about getting a child into Martial Arts -- and a really good martial arts school where the instructors are clear about how and when self-defense is to be used.
My son has been a black belt in taekwondo for a few years now and it's been wonderful for his self confidence. It's also reassuring for me to know that the other kids are aware of those with MA training -- and they DEFINITELY leave those kids alone.
I wanted to add that what Eileen said in regard to like force is also true legally. When one uses self defense, one is expected to use like force.
I would work with you son to know how to respond to the bullies verbally if their harassment is verbal. He needs some scripted responses. You also need to talk to the school adminstration about the racist remarks. Do they know what's happening? That is not tolerable and needs to be addressed both with the name caller and the school population in general.
I think there's a difference between standing up for yourself and responding in an appropriate manner.
Verbal bullying needs a verbal response -- either from the person being bullied or from a person of authority.
A physical response should be saved for a physical bullying, IMHO. That way, if the school has a no-tolerance policy for physical altercations, both parties will be punished. The repurcussions today for physical violence aren't what they were when I was a kid -- lawyers get involved around here!
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I agree. The verbal bullying should of course not be tolerated, but it's always going to be the case that the child that responds to verbal taunting with physical violence is going to be in more trouble than the kid who started it unfortunately.
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I'm really hoping the school officials will look at BOTH sides of this situation and that BOTH kids get a chance to talk about their actions.
Verbal bullying can be far worse than physical bullying because you can't see the scars...and it is way harder to prove (been there, done that). I really hope that this is dealt with fairly on BOTH sides, as I believe the instigator needs just as much disciplining in this.
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I would be mad at the school! There are laws in place against bullying- if the school had done their job, then your son would not have had to take such measures. EVERYTIME your son says he is bullied, I would go to the school immediately. If it's ongoing, the bully needs to be removed from the school!
As a mother of a bullied teenager, I, too hope you have another meeting with this principal. My teen didn't fight back-because of the threats of more "punishment" from this gang if he did indeed say anything. Now he knows I am 100% behind him in the fact that he needs to defend himself. And as others said if he doesn't start it, he better damned well finish it.
Your school district looks like they are ignoring racial taunting. That would have been the first response out of my mouth. Kids can only take so much verbal abuse-everyone has their snapping point no matter the age. I definitely wouldn't be agreeing to the community service and/or other punishment until talking with the local law enforcement to see what/if charges could be pressed against your son for defending himself.
The bully ought to be thankful that he got a vulcan pinch and not a bloody nose/busted lip/black eye!
Joanne, I have to agree with everyone else here. I do hope you will not make Maclane feel bad for what he did. He stood up for himself, and that is a very brave thing to do. Was his response not exactly appropriate for the situation, from our side looking in and from the school's perspective; yes. Help him to understand that there is a time a place for everything and that physical contact is very rarely the answer if the contact was not initiated by the instigator.
Your dad, from a military perspective, trained his troop to protect himself...he just didn't give the troop all the right tools. Don't give him any harsh words, but let him know what happened and that you would like his assistance in helping Maclane work out appropriate responses in different scenarios. Of course, particularly with us military folk, there may also need to be a little nudge on which words are appropriate to us for bullies...I mean idiots...I mean cowards... as well. :-) Your dad did what he did out of love but he did not make the choice for Maclane.
The principal, superintendent and school board have a lot of explaining to do about the harassment and racial taunts your son is enduring. Those words hurt a heck of a lot longer than a "vulcan pinch" and do a lot more damage. Slef-esteem, once dragged down, can be very difficult to prop back up. While your son, or any child, is in their care and in their "house" they are responsible for his well being. Those teachers and administrators are mentors...and they are getting a big fat FAIL for allowing this to go on to the point he felt action necessary.
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