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02-21-2006, 10:01 PM
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Community Rank: Traveler
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Northern New Jersey
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Should I ride Mission Space??
Hello again.....everyone's advice on this board has been so helpful and I just finished booking our ADR's for our trip in April. We are ready to go!! I hope I won't be too big of a pest until then but I do have yet another question. This trip is going to be more of a relaxing one than our previous trips. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/rofl2.gif[/img] ...well at least that's the plan. The goal is to do rides, etc. that we have never done, and then the old time favorites...and relax at the pool alot. Here is where it gets tricky for me [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] I love all the rides at WDW...(TOT, RNR, SM, BTMRR among the favorites), but I have yet to try Mission Space. I have just heard so many negative and not so pleasant things about it...I would love to hear some positive input that will change my mind and help me to stop being such a chicken [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/pout.gif[/img] Thanks in advance! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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02-21-2006, 10:05 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Illinois
Concierge Level: 1
Posts: 9,564
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Re: Should I ride Mission Space??
Mission Space is not my thing, but neither is TOT, RNR or Space Mountain. However, if you do decide to give it a whirl (sorry, no pun intended) then you might want to plan it at a time that if you aren't feeling too great when you get off you can leave EPCOT and rest at your resort.
Have a great time and let us know if you get to experience the ride!
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02-21-2006, 10:15 PM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: North Alabama
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Re: Should I ride Mission Space??
Have you ever had any problems with motion sickness? If not, then I don't think you will have any problems. If you have, there's no guarantee that you'll have a problem with MS.
Pay attention to the instructions--keep your head back and stare straight ahead into the screen in front of you. I think the first time I rode it I felt ever so slightly off kilter for a while [no, I didn't want to rush off and play bagpipes [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]], but for some reason I am always getting a cold or sinus infection right before I go to WDW, so it could just as easily have been that because this last trip a few weeks ago I didn't really notice any after-effects. I will say that I have never gotten off and decided to ride it again straightaway as I have with ToT, RnRC, BTMRR, and EE.
This is a great ride! The effects are excellent and probably as close as most of us will get to the excitement of liftoff. The queue is great and the control center looks like some that I have been in.
I hope you are able to ride and enjoy it.
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02-21-2006, 11:14 PM
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Community Rank: Navigator
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Peoria IL
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Re: Should I ride Mission Space??
I wish I could tell you from first hand experience that I have tried MS, but I haven't. Like you I love RNR, TOT, BTM, Splash and Space. I could spend an entire day, or week if time allowed, going on RNR over and over again. I love to go fast, love to go upside down, just don't spin me.
The first time I went on the teacups with my DD, I felt sick for hours afterwords (even though I had been on them many times in my youth). This was something I never felt before, and not something I want to feel again. No other ride has ever bothered me! Because of this reaction, when MS opened up, I made DH ride it first and give me his take. He loves this ride, but didn't think I could handle it due to my issues with spinning. So I passed. The funny thing is, while my DH loves MS, he hates to ride Dumbo because of the way it makes him feel when he gets off it and wouldn't even consider doing Astro Orbiters! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
One day I hope to try it. I will just have to plan on leaving the park right afterwords and not have any plans for the rest of the night! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Everyone is different. The only way to know for sure is if you try it yourself. Sorry, I know this is not a positive response and probably not much help.
If you do try MS, please come back and let us know what you think of it. Maybe it will convince me to go on it! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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02-21-2006, 11:39 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,478
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Re: Should I ride Mission Space??
I've been wondering the same thing about MS for our upcoming trip. I wonder if taking dramamine or bonine would be helpful an hour or so beforehand? [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/questionicon.gif[/img]
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02-22-2006, 01:10 AM
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Alaska
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Re: Should I ride Mission Space??
I think that you should give it a try! Definitely follow the instructions, they make a huge difference. DO NOT close your eyes! Unlike a simulator such as Star Tours or Body Wars, the feeling that you are spinning is not exaggerated by the visuals on the screen. You ARE spinning. Looking at the screen helps to fool your brain that you are moving forward instead of round and round and round! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/dizzy.gif[/img] I have developed a sensitivity to prolonged spinning (such as on carnival rides) so I was a little nervous about MS. I would just die if I threw up in public! I went on, did as they said, and came out fine! I was certainly glad that it didn't last any longer than it did but I was only a tiny bit queasy at the very end. (I wouldn't recommend a big meal beforehand though! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img])
It's lots of fun as you sling-shot around the moon and I read that even the real astronauts were impressed!
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02-22-2006, 01:42 AM
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Re: Should I ride Mission Space??
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Have you ever had any problems with motion sickness? If not, then I don't think you will have any problems. If you have, there's no guarantee that you'll have a problem with MS.
Pay attention to the instructions--keep your head back and stare straight ahead into the screen in front of you. I think the first time I rode it I felt ever so slightly off kilter for a while [no, I didn't want to rush off and play bagpipes [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]], but for some reason I am always getting a cold or sinus infection right before I go to WDW, so it could just as easily have been that because this last trip a few weeks ago I didn't really notice any after-effects. I will say that I have never gotten off and decided to ride it again straightaway as I have with ToT, RnRC, BTMRR, and EE.
This is a great ride! The effects are excellent and probably as close as most of us will get to the excitement of liftoff. The queue is great and the control center looks like some that I have been in.
I hope you are able to ride and enjoy it.
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[img]/ubb/images/graemlins/yeahthat.gif[/img] I think Larry's said it all here. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I do sometimes suffer from motion sickness and I really was worried about what this ride would do to me. I debated forever about whether to try it or not, but eventually I did. Fortunately I was with someone who'd already done the ride and I knew wouldn't be affected, so I knew they could look after me if the worst came to the worst. I was a little unsteady afterwards, but I've done the ride again since. It's not something I could do more than once in one day, but it's an amazing ride. As Larry says, if you follow the instructions, you really limit the effect on you.
I hope that helps. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif[/img]
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02-22-2006, 09:04 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Lansdale, PA
Posts: 2,112
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Re: Should I ride Mission Space??
It's a ride to experience at least 1 time. I'm not completely sure I will ride it again when we head back down, and I love the other rides that you mentioned...Good Luck in deciding!
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02-22-2006, 09:08 AM
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Community Rank: Legend Extraordinaire
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 35,829
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Re: Should I ride Mission Space??
Definitely give it a try. After Spiderman and the Hulk coaster, the coolest ride in Orlando. Last trip, I rode it 6 times in a row using the single riders line, and would have kept going except Illuminations was beckoning
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02-22-2006, 10:05 AM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 642
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Re: Should I ride Mission Space??
Our first time riding MS was in 2003 when it first had it's soft opening. It was great for me and DS#1, but DH said it made him woozy. He is also one that doesn't like spinning things. When we rode in 2005, I felt as if it had been "toned" down a bit. It didn't give me the rush it had in '03. DS#1 an DS#2 enjoyed it quite a bit. We rode numerous times and DH said it didn't make him as woozy as it had in 2003, but t still just wasn't his "thing." Let yourself get into the '"character" on the ride and enjoy it. Use the suggestions above and you should have a great time!
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02-22-2006, 10:32 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Posts: 28,861
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Re: Should I ride Mission Space??
I second two of the recommendations above:
1) if you're prone to motion sickness (or have trouble with spinning), you should probably skip this. That said, I can't stand the Teacups, but I have NO problem on Mission:Space.
2) Follow the instructions - head back, eyes OPEN (!!), don't lean forward or turn your head. I believe it's a matter of the fluid in your inner ears staying steady while the ride is moving.
If you're "clogged up" or have a sinus infection, I'd give it a pass too... I usually end up woozy if I ride in that condition.
I'm not terrific on the big scary rides, but I adore M:S and think it's has the greatest physical effects and "show" that Disney has ever presented.
But, I'd suggest that you try it close to the end of the day, or when you plan on heading back to the resort. That way, you can rest or lie down if you have a bad experience.
Eileen
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02-22-2006, 10:54 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Kissimmee, FL
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Posts: 10,481
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Re: Should I ride Mission Space??
I have trouble with Simulators (Artic Helicopter Ride at Sea World and Body Wars at WDW...I won't try Star Tours). I am not really prone to motion sickness but simulators do get to me. I do okay on most rides but I am not the type of person who would ride R&RC all day. Anyway...as far as M:S I say try it once the only way you will know is to try it. I went on M:S once and I will never go on it again. I was sick for the rest of the day. I did everything I was told and was still off. I didn't actually ummm...well you know...but I had a pretty painful headache and was dizzy. I took antivert before I went on and it didn't help me at all.
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02-22-2006, 11:47 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Philadelphia
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Re: Should I ride Mission Space??
Give it a shot. It may make you a little dizzy, but that sensation of "lifting off" is quite a rush. As everyone has said, Kepp your head back, your eyes straight ahead on the cockpit "window".
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02-22-2006, 12:08 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Re: Should I ride Mission Space??
I like Mission Space a great deal - but I will say that I can only ride it once a day. The first time I rode it - I felt queasy - but since then, now that I know what to expect I can really enjoy it!
Definately follow the instructions that they give you! It is a wonderful ride.
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02-22-2006, 01:24 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Manchester NH
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Posts: 12,514
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Re: Should I ride Mission Space??
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I like Mission Space a great deal - but I will say that I can only ride it once a day. The first time I rode it - I felt queasy - but since then, now that I know what to expect I can really enjoy it!
Definately follow the instructions that they give you! It is a wonderful ride.
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