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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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10-17-2005, 08:59 AM
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Community Rank: Sightseer
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Maryland
Posts: 51
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FYI-POR Smoking Room Designation Change
I visited POR the first week in October. I was given a room in building 18-Alligator Bayou. I questioned the manager as to smoking designation and was told this was a non-smoking room. When my husband and I got to the room we couldn't even go in because the smoke smell was so bad. It was always my understanding that this building was smoking and that is why I questioned the manager. I am assuming that the hotel recently changed the designation but failed to properly clean the room. Apparently they feel they can just change the sign on the door and say here you go, non-smoking. Also, I was told that the hotel was to 100% capacity which also makes me think they changed the designation when they needed. Just wanted to let everyone know so they wouldn't have to drag luggage all over the hotel as it is not easy to move from hotel room to hotel room.
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10-17-2005, 10:01 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Illinois
Concierge Level: 1
Posts: 9,564
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Re: FYI-POR Smoking Room Designation Change
I would have insisted on a non-smoking room for the next day and also insisted on a reduction in that night's cost. It's not right to switch designations around, especially when people have allergies that a smoking room would effect!
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10-17-2005, 10:14 AM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 505
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Re: FYI-POR Smoking Room Designation Change
Oh, no that is terrible! I think I would have to write them a letter. Karla
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10-17-2005, 10:15 AM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Foothills of Maine
Posts: 784
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Re: FYI-POR Smoking Room Designation Change
If they did this to me I would have to sleep on the sidewalk or a bench! My in-laws stopped smaking in the home several years before they moved out and I still could not visit it! Changing the sign does not make it no smoking for sure!
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10-17-2005, 12:38 PM
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Community Rank: Legend Extraordinaire
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ohio Football Hall Of Fame
Posts: 42,304
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Re: FYI-POR Smoking Room Designation Change
That really stinks-literally!! I would definitely call or write a letter. That is not right at all to stick a non-smoker in a room that reaks of smoke. I would have demanded that they put me in another hotel.
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10-17-2005, 01:28 PM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia
Posts: 3,498
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Re: FYI-POR Smoking Room Designation Change
Personally, I think all hotel rooms should be off limits to smoke. I'm sorry, but for goodness sake, it's where you rest your head at night. Who wants to smell like a carton of cigarettes after being in a room for eight hours? Cigarette smoke doesn't know how to "behave" and stay in one place, it goes where it wants, and the odor lingers.
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10-17-2005, 01:30 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,547
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Re: FYI-POR Smoking Room Designation Change
I would have been so mad! They didn't do anything to compensate for the gross-smelling room??
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10-17-2005, 05:30 PM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Methuen,MA
Posts: 4,499
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Re: FYI-POR Smoking Room Designation Change
I agree with lisaJ
My in-laws all smoke and when I get home I literally have to change my clothes and take a shower to get the smell out of my hair - I can just imagine a room with the doors and windows closed. YUCK
You should write a letter or call - maybe ask kelly her advice.
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10-17-2005, 10:35 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Texas
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 11,304
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Re: FYI-POR Smoking Room Designation Change
Smoke makes me very sick, I would not stay in a room where smoke was. I would ask for another room, and if none were available, I would ask for another resort..
Deb
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10-18-2005, 12:46 AM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Dreaming of the Future
Concierge Level: 1
Posts: 24,867
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Re: FYI-POR Smoking Room Designation Change
I would write a letter explaining what happened and tell disney that they should have either cleaned better or left the designation alone. I would just let them know so that the next person doesn't have to deal with it. At least they will know how you felt and can do something about it! Sorry that happened to you!
Amy
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10-18-2005, 09:27 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 2,586
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Re: FYI-POR Smoking Room Designation Change
Could it be that smokers were in your non-smoking room before you? Several years ago when we were staying at CS, a family checked in to a non-smoking room a couple of doors away from us and I heard the woman say "oh well, they gave us a non-smoking room by mistake, but I'll just smoke outside". The room had to reek from the smoke on her clothing and hair. We were on the 2nd floor, so he had to walk by her if she was outside smoking on the balcony. I complained to the desk, but their answer was that I could change rooms if I want to. We had 3 rooms in our party and why should I have to change when I was doing nothing wrong? They told me they couldn't control what people do in their rooms. I always check the room out before carrying any luggage up to my room.
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