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We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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07-14-2005, 01:13 PM
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I need some advice: co-worker going away gift UPDATE
My manager at my PT job is relocating to another state with her b/f. My other co-workers are all friends, they hang out together and go on trips together...etc. They are all in their mid to early 20s and very "high schoolish" (ie gossipy and lazy). One of the girls went out and bought the manager a $100 gift certificate to a store and AFTER the purchase was made she went around and asked everyone to contribute $10. At the time I didn't have $10 to just give out (I was honestly hoping she would forget). I told her I would let her know after I got paid (yesterday) if I had the cash to spare. That didn't stop her from asking me twice before my payday I work tomorrow and I am sure I will be approached again (if I don't get a phone call tonight).
What would you do? I don't like the girl, I don't really think she did a great job and I wasn't ask how much I could afford before the gift was purchased (not that I CAN'T afford it but I could think of better things to spend $10 on). My boss (the owner) has now gotten involved (something I honestly think she has NO place doing) and actually yelled at another co-worker of mine for not contributing to this "gift" fund.
I am almost tempted to stiff them and send a check for $10 to the Humane Society in her name! I don't want to create any friction but I really don't want to be forced to contribute money to a co-worker gift. Should I just fork over the cash and tell her it was rude to assume that everyone would agree to such an extravagant gift!
please
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07-14-2005, 02:03 PM
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Re: I need some advice: co-worker going away gift
That's a tough one, Robin. I totally agree with you that people should not be expected to contribute to a gift after the fact. The only thing that would make me give the money is knowing that if you don't, you'll have to deal with the friction in the workplace from your co-workers. Most likely they would give you grief about it for a while, but then it would die down. Boy, that's a toughie.
I guess in the end, I would say give them the money (or $5 and say that's all you can afford right now), but make a point that it would be best if future gift-giving was discussed before the purchase is made.
Good luck.
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07-14-2005, 03:31 PM
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Re: I need some advice: co-worker going away gift
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I guess in the end, I would say give them the money (or $5 and say that's all you can afford right now), but make a point that it would be best if future gift-giving was discussed before the purchase is made.
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I'd give her the $5 and above comment. Really some people are just sooooo rude!
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07-14-2005, 03:59 PM
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Re: I need some advice: co-worker going away gift
If you are going to have to continue to work with these people I say pay the $10 and chalk it up to working with idiots. You can tell them that next time you expect to be consulted before any financial decisions are made.
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07-14-2005, 04:08 PM
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Re: I need some advice: co-worker going away gift
Hmmmm Robin, that's a difficult one. I too don't feel comfortable giving money for gifts for people I don't actually like but in this instance if I were in your shoes I would give the money, I wouldn't really like doing it but I think it might cause friction.
I think it was very rude of your colleague to expect everyone to contribute and she most certainly should have asked everyone first. Hopefully she will ask in future.
Karen
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07-14-2005, 04:34 PM
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Re: I need some advice: co-worker going away gift
I would probably give the $10. I don't like to cause alot of friction. But, I would probably tell them that in the future to check with me before they assumed I would contribute to the gift. That way next time I would not have any trouble telling them "NO".
I think your co-worker was very wrong to buy the gift certificate and asume that everyone would re-imburse her.
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07-14-2005, 05:57 PM
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Re: I need some advice: co-worker going away gift
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I would probably give the $10. I don't like to cause alot of friction. But, I would probably tell them that in the future to check with me before they assumed I would contribute to the gift. That way next time I would not have any trouble telling them "NO".
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I totally agree...I would let them know next I won't be in the giving spirit if I am not asked!
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07-14-2005, 06:33 PM
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Re: I need some advice: co-worker going away gift
Good luck Robin I'd just chalk it up as gone, and pay the money! Let them know to ask you though the next time
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07-14-2005, 07:46 PM
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Re: I need some advice: co-worker going away gift
I think I would just pay it too, but I would let the girl know that I would've appreciated being asked if that was ok with me before just being EXPECTED to fork over the moolah. Hopefully she would get the message.
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07-14-2005, 09:06 PM
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Re: I need some advice: co-worker going away gift
I agree with the others, I would probably just pay it, too, since you have to continue working with those other people.
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07-15-2005, 12:21 AM
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Re: I need some advice: co-worker going away gift
for the situation, and i would just pay and make sure they know next time you won't be able to contribute if they don't ask before buying something!
Amy
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07-15-2005, 02:52 AM
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Re: I need some advice: co-worker going away gift
I'm with everyone else on this - hopefully if you make it clear that you expect to be asked before anything like this happens again, you won't be put in this situation again.
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07-15-2005, 09:26 AM
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Re: I need some advice: co-worker going away gift
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for the situation, and i would just pay and make sure they know next time you won't be able to contribute if they don't ask before buying something!
Amy
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I agree with this. Be strong!
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07-15-2005, 10:00 AM
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Re: I need some advice: co-worker going away gift
Thanks guys!
I gave her a check today and let her know that next time she should pass an envelope around and let everyone contribute what they can afford. I told her assuming everyone wanted to and would pay the $10 was wrong. Then she snapped back at me saying, "I was just trying to do something nice." then she went on to explain the owner should have purchased the gift not her...blah blah blah. The she told me to take the check back that I didn't "have to" contribute. I just told her "I don't mind giving the money but I don't like being ordered to give money to a gift." Like I said these girls are very gossipy so I am sure it will be spread around that I am a horrible person that I didn't WANT to contribute to the gift. She was probably on the phone with the owner as soon as I left the building. Honestly I really don't care...I do my job and I am one of the most valuable employees there so I have nothing to worry about!
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07-15-2005, 12:30 PM
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Re: I need some advice: co-worker going away gift
Robin Good for you at least standing up for next time something like this happens...I understand the whole gossipy thing...my work is just a rumor gossip mill...well glad this worked out.
Amy
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