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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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06-08-2005, 07:12 AM
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What - No Parks? Walt Disney World Outside the Theme Parks (Part 1 of 2)
by Cheryl Pendry, Guest Columnist and PassPorter Message Board Guide
Not only does Walt Disney World boast four theme parks and two water parks, but it's also home to a myriad of other activities. Cheryl Pendry, a veteran Disney visitor, has spent many happy days there without using up a park pass and here in the first part of a two part article, takes a look at how the Disney resorts are good for so much more than just accommodation...
continued in the next post...
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06-08-2005, 07:12 AM
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Re: What - No Parks? Walt Disney World Outside the Theme Parks (Part 1 of 2)
Perhaps it's your umpteenth visit to Disney World and you feel the need to get away from the parks for a while. Perhaps you were just there a few months ago and feel you've enjoyed all the attractions you want to this trip. Maybe it's just an exceptionally busy time of the year and you can't face the crowds. Either way, there's plenty to do at Disney, without needing admission to any of the four main theme parks or a water park.
This is something we've done many times in the past and will no doubt do again in the future. One of the biggest attractions outside of the parks are the resorts. Each is beautifully themed and having visited nearly all of them, with the exception of the Caribbean Beach, I can tell you that they're all very different from each other as well. Many happy hours have been spent touring the resorts, finding out which are our favorites.
The easiest way to get to each one is to drive, but if you don't have a car during your stay, buses run from each theme park and Downtown Disney back to the resorts and the Contemporary, Polynesian and Grand Floridian are just a monorail ride away from the Magic Kingdom. There's plenty to see at each, with lobbies, shops and restaurants all open to the public. If you want to see how big the rooms are, then simply ask a cast member to show you. In our experience they're more than happy to help if they've got rooms available and aren't too busy, and it's a great way of judging whether you'd be happy staying a particular resort before paying out any of your hard earned cash.
You can usually look around the swimming pool area to judge at first hand how good the facilities are and at many resorts, there are pleasant walks from the main registration building to the outlying rooms. Particularly attractive walks that we've enjoyed can be found at Port Orleans Riverside, the Grand Floridian and Polynesian, while Pop Century enjoys some of the most fun walks on Disney property. References to what happened in individual years and cultural icons, such as Rubik's Cubes and Mr. Potato Head are scattered throughout the grounds, bringing back fond memories for both young and old. It's a lovely way to spend an hour or two.
And there's much more to see at the resorts during the holiday season. We personally rate the Grand Floridian, the Beach Club and the Wilderness Lodge as not to be missed at this time of the year, although every resort has decorations to enjoy, with many boasting amazing offerings from their resident chefs -- from gingerbread houses to carrousels and African villages.
This brings us to dining. The resorts also boast some of the finest and most entertaining restaurants on Disney property. We never fail to enjoy a character meal at Chef Mickey's at the Contemporary or at 1900 Park Fare at the Grand Floridian, the burgers at the Beach Club's Beaches and Cream just can't be beaten anywhere on Disney property, and who could fail to enjoy the exotic African offerings on the buffet at Boma at Disney's Animal Kingdom Lodge?
If it's a more upscale experience you're after, then each of the deluxe resorts boast at least one fine dining option. Artist Point at the Wilderness Lodge, Jiko at Animal Kingdom Lodge, the Contemporary's California Grill and Narcosees at the Grand Floridian all offer first class food and a great atmosphere and are consistently highly rated by Disney visitors. If it's a special occasion, the unique Victoria and Albert's at the Grand Floridian, with menus that vary daily, can't be beaten. When we ate there, we were able to forget that we were even in a hotel. It's like walking into your own world of five star dining and although it's expensive, it's worth every penny.
Some of the resorts also offer their own attractions, meaning you may not have to venture far from your room to find some entertainment, with the Animal Kingdom Lodge being the best example. If you're not lucky to have a savannah room there or you're visiting from another resort, you can still sample the wildlife either at the Arusha Rock overlook or from various viewing areas on the third floor of both the Kudu and Zebra Trail. There are even rocking chairs for you to sit and survey the savannah.
Perhaps you still want to be a bit more active on your vacation or have an exercise regime you're keen to keep up with? Tennis courts with the best facilities are available at the Walt Disney World Racquet Club at the Contemporary. Maybe two wheels is more your style? Bikes can be hired at Old Key West, Saratoga Springs and Fort Wilderness, allowing you to explore the resort grounds.
Perhaps you fancy heading out on the water? You can head out into the Seven Seas Lagoon in front of Magic Kingdom and the neighboring Bay Lake on a Sea Raycer, pontoon, canopy or sailboat, but a far more unique experience waits at the Yacht and Beach Club marina. There, you can rent Breathless, a beautiful mahogany reproduction of a 1930 powerboat. It's the fastest boat on property -- and feels like it when the throttle is turned up - and can be hired during the day for a trip around Crescent Lake and down to Disney-MGM Studios (a Disney skipper is behind the wheel). If you're early enough and in luck, you may even be able to venture to the edge of Epcot's World Showcase Lagoon. When we did this in December, we entered by the United Kingdom pavillion, headed over to Morocco and then out again through France.
Breathless is also available for Illuminations cruises, but be warned -- these are among the hottest tickets on property and sell out within minutes. If you want to book a cruise, call 407-WDW-PLAY, but if it's an Illuminations cruise you're after, be sure to be on the phone at 7:00 am Eastern time exactly 90 days out to stand a chance of securing one.
Something else offered by a number of resorts and often overlooked by many guests are the health and fitness centers -- and they're not just for those who want to keep up their exercise regime while they're away from home! Each of the fitness centers at Coronado Springs, Disney's Animal Kingdom Lodge, the Boardwalk, Yacht and Beach Club and the Villas at Wilderness Lodge offer essentially the same services.
As well as offering state-of-the-art fitness exercise machines, you can also enjoy massages at each site. Having been lucky enough to sample the 50-minute massage at the Ship Shape health club at the Yacht and Beach Club and a massage at the Grand Floridian spa, I can tell you that they're both very similar, although if value for money is top of your list, then head for a resort fitness center, rather than a "spa." The massages are cheaper there, although you don't get the same relaxing atmosphere as you do at the two Spa resorts.
Having taken a tour of the various Disney resorts and the activities offered at them, in the second part, I'll be looking at what else you can enjoy on Disney property outside of the parks, including teeing off amongst the dancing hippos, cowgirls, and fire breathers on the BoardWalk and shopping until you drop!
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06-08-2005, 10:27 AM
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Re: What - No Parks? Walt Disney World Outside the Theme Parks (Part 1 of 2)
Nicely written. I too like the walks at POR and POFQ and I think AKL is the coolest hotel I've ever styaed at
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06-15-2005, 09:30 PM
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Re: What - No Parks? Walt Disney World Outside the Theme Parks (Part 1 of 2)
Nice article Cheryl!!!!
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06-21-2005, 03:39 AM
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Re: What - No Parks? Walt Disney World Outside the Theme Parks (Part 1 of 2)
And don't forget swim time once you FIND that perfect resort. I have gotten in MORE trouble for not allowing enough swim time (especially during the day when the slide is open) than I ever have for not allowing enough park time! Allow time away from the park especially at Coronado Springs and the Yacht/Beach Club although there are nice slides at AKL and Polynesian as well! Alicia
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