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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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01-12-2004, 09:25 PM
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Mel Gibson\'s \"The Passion\"
Has anyone been following the controversy on Mel Gibson's upcoming movie The Passion? It's a movie that depicts the last 12 hours of Christ's life. The Pope likes it, the Anti-Defamation League hates it, and it turns out that Mel Gibson is a super hard-core Catholic who bought and maintains his own church because he believes Vatican II weakened the religion, and he prefers to follow to what's known as Traditional Catholicism.
Most of the concern stems from Gibson's portrayal of the Jews in the movie, which reportedly makes them look like evil, blood-thirsty mongers prone to deicide. The Village Voice printed a great article exploring the notion that Mel Gibson has been grooming his career towards a movie with such a subject for some time now.
I've read strong reviews on both sides of the anti-Semitism issue, and the movie has been widely rumored to possibly evoke bad Jewish-Christian relations. Some say the movie could be a serious miscalculation on Mel Gibson's part and could ruin his career. Frankly, I'm fascinated and I'll be one of the first in line for its Ash Wednesday premiere. How 'bout you? Is this a movie you would see for yourself, or would rather avoid, or would just chalk up the controversy to media hype. Any thoughts?
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01-12-2004, 10:02 PM
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Re: Mel Gibson\'s \"The Passion\"
I have been following this story as well and am looking forward to seeing it.
But I am glad Mel has changed his mind and has decided to use subtitles. My Latin is a bit rusty .
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01-12-2004, 10:22 PM
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Re: Mel Gibson\'s \"The Passion\"
You sure do like the controversial topics, Rachel! (Religion, politics, popular morals, etc) Mee too!
D.B. and I are looking forward to seeing this, as much due to the controversy as the content. As for the anti-Semitism issue, I'll have to see it and make a judgement then. Personally, as a Christian, I don't hold Jewish people responsible for Christ's death. I hold all of humainity (including myself) equally responsible, due to the fall Adam and Eve, as recorded in Genesis.
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Even approving viewers of Passion have recoiled at the savagery of the film, in which Jesus (played by James Caviezel, himself a devout Catholic) is endlessly beaten, scourged, and thrown about like a rag doll. In the most widely circulated publicity still, the Man of Sorrows is pictured stooped under a massive cross, drenched in blood and howling in agony. And that's before the nails come out.
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Sounds like this movie will be hard to stomache. A good reminder to me regarding the depth of my sin, and the depth of the love of my God, who redeemed me despite it.
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01-12-2004, 10:33 PM
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Re: Mel Gibson\'s \"The Passion\"
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You sure do like the controversial topics, Rachel! (Religion, politics, popular morals, etc)
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Guilty as charged, I can't help myself.
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I hold all of humanity (including myself) equally responsible
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I read that Mel's only on-screen role in the film are his hands pounding nails through Jesus' hands to the cross, in effort to recognize that he killed Jesus.
Margo: I agree re: Latin (and Aramaic...2 dead languages! I think we're all rusty! )
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01-12-2004, 10:39 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
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Re: Mel Gibson\'s \"The Passion\"
Well, im a good Baptist girl and know NOTHING about the Catholic church, so I cant speak to any of the vatican II issues, especially since I have NO idea what any of it means, but I do know that Mel Gibson has at least the strength to stand on his convictions, regardless of what the typical Hollyweird crowd thinks; good for him. If Robert Downey Jr and a host of other badly behaving folks can be redeemed, then Mr. Gibson should not be castigated for making a film(financed by him) about his beliefs. Dosent this fall into freedom of speech as well, or is that just for politically correct forms of art.
From what I understand, he sticks very close to scripture. I hope so. I will see it; my husband says he cant, that it will be too painful, but will see it later. Yes, for believers, it will be INCREDIBLY painful to watch the full brutality, but it was brutal and that should not be discounted.
All I know is that I will be bringing my kleenex. Even seeing a crufix brings me to tears; thinking about the sacrafice made willingly.
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01-12-2004, 10:52 PM
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Re: Mel Gibson\'s \"The Passion\"
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Dosent this fall into freedom of speech as well, or is that just for politically correct forms of art.
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It certainly is protected as a work of art. I'm curious about the movie, but not offended that it's viewed as being one-sided. All of history is one-sided, usually because history is written by the victors of its wars. In a story, produced by a Catholic man of means and conviction, can we expect it to portray everyone in a politically correct light? Hardly. He's telling the story as he is interpreting it. Take what you will and leave the rest, I think, is the message here - for what it's worth from a third party.
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01-12-2004, 10:56 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
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Re: Mel Gibson\'s \"The Passion\"
Also, as to whether or not this will sink his career. He has made it clear that he dosent care. This is his "passion"(hence the movie title) and he made enough money to take care of his family and make this film and that's enough for him.
He did just win a people's choice award for favorite movie actor the other night(last night?), so at least the fans still think of him.
I will always love him in Signs!!!!!!!
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01-13-2004, 12:07 AM
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Re: Mel Gibson\'s \"The Passion\"
From the history aspect alone, everything I've read makes me know that I will see this movie. We know that anyone that faced crucifixion was mauled in the worst way and so I'm not sure that what is portrayed on the screen will seem that outlandish. That type of death was always torture and so I'm not sure why there would be bad Jewish-Christian relations....I think that that is just media trying to make something bigger than necessary. It's not like we don't all know that he was put to death by his own people....and then the rest of us just because we are part of the reason that he went to the cross.
I am intrigued that he chose to do the nailing himself. I think that it shows a closer look at who Mel Gibson really is. How deeply he might believe what he is doing.
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01-13-2004, 07:05 AM
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Re: Mel Gibson\'s \"The Passion\"
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A good reminder to me regarding the depth of my sin, and the depth of the love of my God, who redeemed me despite it.
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Amen to that! I am very much looking forward to this film. I don't think it can be labeled as one sided since it does apparently follow scripture. I hope it does nothing more than glofify the price that Christ paid for us.
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01-13-2004, 09:36 AM
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Re: Mel Gibson\'s \"The Passion\"
I don't want to see the film. If the Pope said it's good than it must follow the Bible. The PC police can take a leap on this on. I hope those who see it come away with a truer picture of Christ and the Bible.
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