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We have BOG breakfast reservations. Does the Beast make an appearance during QS time periods? My ds wants to get a peek inside and doesn't care much about the meal.
What might be different between qs and TS time periods?
What might be different between qs and TS time periods?
QS there is fairly similar in how it's done elsewhere.
There are a few differences other than menu between BOG QS and other QS.
At BOG, you order from a computer kiosk if you didn't pre-order online. You find your own table, and a CM with a cart delivers your food to your table. You pick up your drinks and flatware/napkins at stations along one wall of the room where you choose to sit which is similar. Unlike other QS, you'll have real plates and utensils.
Even though you choose which room you like, not all three rooms are likely to be open at breakfast. When we did it a few years ago, the spectacular West Wing Room was closed. That one, of course, has all the drama of the thunderstorm, the Prince/Beast slashed portrait and Belle's rose. It's also The ONE most people really want to see.
Dinner at BOG is just about like any other TS; you'll be seated with little to no choice of where. You order from a menu and are served.
You get a few glimpses of Beast walking through the middle room, the Ballroom, if sitting in it. His break area is near the West Room, and he strides across the Ballroom to his study where he does the Meet & Greet. You go there after your meal. It's a fun M&G with the drawback of being only at dinner.
Unless the rest of the family really wants to eat there, you may want to switch to somewhere else for breakfast. Your DS will be quite disappointed, I expect.
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I wouldnot pay out of pocket for breakfast at BOG. It's prix fix and we found many more times the food that we would need or want to eat.
IMHO a late lunch is the best time to check out the place. We ate at 1:30 and by the time we finsihed, it was pretty well cleared out-you could see all three rooms. We found lunch good and reasonably priced. We also found when we arrived for lunch it was very noisy (one of my dislikes about most Disney dining.) After a bit, the people left and you could hear yourself think.
QS there is fairly similar in how it's done elsewhere.
There are a few differences other than menu between BOG QS and other QS.
At BOG, you order from a computer kiosk if you didn't pre-order online. You find your own table, and a CM with a cart delivers your food to your table. You pick up your drinks and flatware/napkins at stations along one wall of the room where you choose to sit which is similar. Unlike other QS, you'll have real plates and utensils.
Even though you choose which room you like, not all three rooms are likely to be open at breakfast. When we did it a few years ago, the spectacular West Wing Room was closed. That one, of course, has all the drama of the thunderstorm, the Prince/Beast slashed portrait and Belle's rose. It's also The ONE most people really want to see.
Dinner at BOG is just about like any other TS; you'll be seated with little to no choice of where. You order from a menu and are served.
You get a few glimpses of Beast walking through the middle room, the Ballroom, if sitting in it. His break area is near the West Room, and he strides across the Ballroom to his study where he does the Meet & Greet. You go there after your meal. It's a fun M&G with the drawback of being only at dinner.
Unless the rest of the family really wants to eat there, you may want to switch to somewhere else for breakfast. Your DS will be quite disappointed, I expect.
I can always depend on you for honest restaurant info. DD and DisSis are the only ones going in for a peak.
The rest of us will make due with Cinnamon Buns from Gaston's Tavern.
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I wouldnot pay out of pocket for breakfast at BOG. It's prix fix and we found many more times the food that we would need or want to eat.
IMHO a late lunch is the best time to check out the place. We ate at 1:30 and by the time we finsihed, it was pretty well cleared out-you could see all three rooms. We found lunch good and reasonably priced. We also found when we arrived for lunch it was very noisy (one of my dislikes about most Disney dining.) After a bit, the people left and you could hear yourself think.
DD and DisSis swear that since it's a QS they might just order beverages. They are silly!
I agree with you about the noise levels in restaurants, although we have been known to get loud and feisty ourselves.
DD and DisSis swear that since it's a QS they might just order beverages. They are silly!
Weeeelll, I imagine they could do that if they really want to. Do they realize they'll be paying $24.00 each for those beverages, though?
You can't order a single item at BOG breakfast and pay only for it as at other QS. Each adult pays $24 and gets a shared pastry platter for the table, an entree and non-alcoholic beverage. Or, in their case, a couple of VERY pricey coffees.
Sorry about my not mentioning the most important difference between BOG breakfast and other QS. I thought you likely were aware it's prix fixe, a set price for x-many items per person whether you want all that or not as Huntermom pointed out.
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Try lunch if you just want a look at the restaurant. My husband highly recommends the soups, which can be had for a snack credit. The dessert items are small but very good, also for a snack credit. You could just get one of those and coffee and enjoy the ambiance. We like sitting in the Music Box room, which seems a bit smaller and less noisy than the other two (maybe all the padding on the seats). Do order online in advance of your visit to save time.
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So we haven't been able to get an ADR for any times on our MK day/night or the evening of MVMCP. Is it possible to enter just to have a look in the seating area without a ressie? What are the chances of a late night walk in?
No, sorry to disappoint, there's no way of entering just to look. Must have an ADR. The place is way too popular for them to be able to accommodate "peekers."
You might get a late-night walkup depending on when you try, better chance during less busy seasons, of course.
General reader tip: If late August through just before Christmas, be sure to check the Halloween and Christmas party schedules. BOG closes at 6:00 p.m. on those nights.
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So we haven't been able to get an ADR for any times on our MK day/night or the evening of MVMCP. Is it possible to enter just to have a look in the seating area without a ressie? What are the chances of a late night walk in?
As Dot said, you can't just walk in to look around. However, I would keep trying to get an ADR; I've changed mine at BOG as close as twenty days out, and they do sometimes have space on the same day if you are flexible on your dining time. It wouldn't hurt to ask when you arrive at the park to see if there are any openings.
...they do sometimes have space on the same day if you are flexible on your dining time. It wouldn't hurt to ask when you arrive at the park to see if there are any openings.
That's a good tip. It does happen as we've overheard people ask if there was ANYthing for dinner and get it.
Day before or day of can be surprisingly lucky at times.
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