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It looks as if we've left it a bit late to sort out our hotel for Toronto and prices have gone through the roof.
I can either go for a hotel in downtown for around £400 ($520) for two nights or I can go for one on the outskirts for about half that cost. The only reason I'm hesitating is that would mean we'd need to drive into the city, as the hotel is nowhere near any public transport. We'd probably be coming in to see Casa Loma on our first afternoon, then on the second day, our main venues are the CN Tower and the Royal Ontario Museum. I figured we'd get in early, as it would be a Saturday and park up somewhere, then use public transport. We'd then have to drive out to Cirque du Soleil, as there doesn't seem to be any public transport near that.
What I just want to check is whether this is a good idea or not - driving into Toronto on a Friday afternoon and early on a Saturday morning or should we just suck it up and pay the extra money and put the car away for the couple of days we're there? How bad is driving in Toronto is really what I want to know. We've managed fine in most cities - Boston was Ok, although Los Angeles was a bit of a nightmare, just to give you an idea.
I am biased because I do not like driving in city-proper traffic, especially downtown or near-downtown areas.
I grew up in Toronto but now live in Ottawa. I will only drive into downtown Toronto if it is an emergency. Actually, anything south of about Eglinton is too far into the city for me :-)
When we do visit TO, we stay at a hotel in what used to be the city of North York (the Novotel North York is located very close to the TTC Yonge subway line and restaurants, often has reasonable rates, is easy to get to, and has paid underground parking -- we stay there, park the car and then use the TTC for almost everything we need) or outside of the city of Toronto proper (e.g. in Markham or Vaughan).
Later this summer we will stay in Vaughan near the Vaughan Mills shopping mall. For the day we need to be in downtown TO (Blue Jays game + aquarium) we will drive to Downsview or Finch TTC subway stations and use their free-on-the-weekend park and ride parking to park the car, then take the subway down to Union Station and make the walk to Rogers Centre.
Although we are choosing not to stay there for our trip, it was an option: there are some hotels out near/in the Toronto Pearson Airport that are quite reasonably priced -- and there is now the UP Express train that goes from the airport to Union Station and back; reasonably priced and an easy way to get into the city from that area. https://www.upexpress.com/
The downside of course of not staying downtown is the time you will spend getting there and back each day by train and/or buses.
For Cirque, are you going to see Luzia ? It looks like it is at the Toronto Port Lands; according to Google maps there are two TTC routes that will get you there from Union station - the 72 and the 121 (depending on day, time of day etc; there may be other routes, too). The TTC website at http://www.ttc.ca/ has extensive planning information and info on how to contact them to find out how to get from point A to B.
If you can swing it I would stay downtown, it is so much easier to get around. Driving is crazy, it's very busy and the subway and transit system can get you almost anywhere.
Staying out by the airport works, just factor in time to get into the city.
You will love Casa Loma, if you have time try to hit up St Lawerence market.
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For Cirque, are you going to see Luzia ? It looks like it is at the Toronto Port Lands; according to Google maps there are two TTC routes that will get you there from Union station - the 72 and the 121 (depending on day, time of day etc; there may be other routes, too). The TTC website at http://www.ttc.ca/ has extensive planning information and info on how to contact them to find out how to get from point A to B.
Great information - thanks for that, that's really helpful. I had no idea there was any public transport over to the Port Lands (yes, we are seeing Luzia), we'll have to look into that.
If you can swing it I would stay downtown, it is so much easier to get around. Driving is crazy, it's very busy and the subway and transit system can get you almost anywhere.
Staying out by the airport works, just factor in time to get into the city.
You will love Casa Loma, if you have time try to hit up St Lawerence market.
I did price up hotels at the airport and am still seriously considering that, as the transport system from there did look good.
Great information - thanks for that, that's really helpful. I had no idea there was any public transport over to the Port Lands (yes, we are seeing Luzia), we'll have to look into that.
Also, if you were to get yourself to Union Station area, which is easy by public transit, a taxi from there to the Port Lands should not be too expensive as it is not that far a trip. Someone who lives in TO might be able to give you a better idea of the cost for that.
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I did price up hotels at the airport and am still seriously considering that, as the transport system from there did look good.
Just remember to factor in the cost of getting to/from the hotel and the airport (the hotel might have a free shuttle, for example) and/or parking at the airport.
Also, if you were to get yourself to Union Station area, which is easy by public transit, a taxi from there to the Port Lands should not be too expensive as it is not that far a trip. Someone who lives in TO might be able to give you a better idea of the cost for that.
SW
All great information!
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Just remember to factor in the cost of getting to/from the hotel and the airport (the hotel might have a free shuttle, for example) and/or parking at the airport.
SW
I did look at the parking prices - it seems to me just about every hotel anywhere in Toronto charges for parking! Usually in most cities, outside of the main areas, you can find some places with free parking, but not here it seems.
I did look at the parking prices - it seems to me just about every hotel anywhere in Toronto charges for parking! Usually in most cities, outside of the main areas, you can find some places with free parking, but not here it seems.
In the actual city of Toronto I would not be surprised if nearly every hotel charges for parking. Ditto around the airport. Keep in mind that what is now the City of Toronto used to be a the area called Metropolitan Toronto, which was a much smaller City of Toronto surrounded by IIRC 4 cities and a borough, each of which had its own "downtown", city hall, etc. Many hotels in Toronto are situated in relation to that older configuration and its corresponding densities - and the dense urban areas generally = paid parking.
A good example: Novotel North York is part of the same larger complex in which you find the old North York City Hall; the hotel overlooks Mel Lastman Square, a nice outdoor square that is part of the old city hall complex. That stretch of Yonge has densified even more from when I used to live there -- I barely recognize it now there are so many high rises and condos and such. The hotel is part of the shopping mall and office complex and the parking is underground parking (that is all there is space for in that area) and is therefore paid parking.
When you get out of the actual city, paid parking will change.
For example, the hotels (Sheraton, Best Western, Holiday Inn, and Hilton families) we have stayed in in the Markham and Vaughan areas (so, to the north of TO, and north of highway 7/407) do not charge for outdoor parking -- there is enough land for the hotel and a sizable on ground parking lot, hence free parking.
Thanks for all the help with this. I sucked it up and paid for a hotel downtown - the Hilton Garden Inn. I got it slightly cheaper directly through Hilton, but it was still stupid money, but I feel I've done the right thing thanks to all of you.
Thanks for all the help with this. I sucked it up and paid for a hotel downtown - the Hilton Garden Inn. I got it slightly cheaper directly through Hilton, but it was still stupid money, but I feel I've done the right thing thanks to all of you.
Are you doing the Niagara area also? I think you would quite enjoy Niagara on the Lake, lots of quaint shops.
We are. We were going to spend the night there, but the only flight I could get the next day to Orlando was early in the morning, so now we're going to be staying the night at Buffalo Airport. I've always wanted to visit Toronto and Niagara Falls. I first started making plans to fly out there back in the late 1990s, but it didn't work out. Finally, this year we get to do it!
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I had no idea there was any public transport over to the Port Lands (yes, we are seeing Luzia), we'll have to look into that.
We were going to spend the night there, but the only flight I could get the next day to Orlando was early in the morning, so now we're going to be staying the night at Buffalo Airport. I've always wanted to visit Toronto and Niagara Falls. I first started making plans to fly out there back in the late 1990s, but it didn't work out. Finally, this year we get to do it! 
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