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Old 10-01-2014, 12:36 PM   #1
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saw the strangest thing yesterday

So, yesterday at work(I work in a restaurant), I looked out the window and saw a guy in the first handicapped spot getting a wheelchair out of his SUV. I didn't think anything of it just thought it was for a passenger. Next time I looked up he was in the restaurant up at our bakery section IN the wheelchair acting like he was paralyzed(legs together not moving them). It was a custom wheelchair too not one of those hospital type ones. Then I watched as he wheeled himself out and when he got back to his car he hopped out of the wheelchair, loaded it, and then paced around the car talking on his phone. The distance from his car to inside the restaurant is maybe 30 feet. He took as many steps loading his wheelchair and pacing while on the phone. I know some people have hidden medical problems but this looked really fishy. I have never seen that before in my life.
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Old 10-01-2014, 12:48 PM   #2
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That does sound a little strange. I know my DDad has bad knees and will use a cane just in case one of them gives out but he is able to walk without the cane (and will occasionally forget it and leave it hanging on a shopping cart) I'd like to think he just had a problem that you couldn't see, rather than he was trying to get something special because of a handicap. But, who knows?
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Well, if he is faking it, it sure seems like a lot of trouble to do so.
I'd think it would be easier to park further away and just get out and walk in a store. Having to lift a wheelchair out of a van every time you park?
I don't know what to think about this. It is strange.
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When I was very ill, I had trouble walking even ten feet. I could walk, it just wore me out. I was on IV medication but am not sure non-medical people would have known what it was. I might have been able to pick up a light weight wheel chair and get it it but I wasn't allowed to drive.

I looked fine but both my PCP and specialist thought I should get a handicap tag. I didn't want one and worked very hard so I did not need one (or for very long)

I shared a receptionist/secretary who had injured her leg and it didn't heal properly. Some days she was fine and could lift, bend and walk. Other days it was extremely painful for her to even sit. My sister has handicapped tags becuase she has a child with cerebral palsy. She may be walking in to a building to get him but parked in handicapped space because she also needs to get him out of the building and back to the car.

My view is it is the responsibility of those who give out tags to determine who gets them and who doesn't.
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I wonder if he was doing research --- not sure his age, though many go back or continue school well past the late teens and 20's. Or if it was some sort of gag (not funny). It just seems, as others mentioned, an awful lot of trouble to go though lugging out a wheelchair and putting it back in if it wasn't needed. I understand how many people look fine, but have conditions where they tire easily, however wheelchairs are not light, I'd like it'd be more tiring to lift the chair in and out of the car, than to just walk a bit further.
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I doubt that this person was a fake. Wheelchairs are costly. Even a lightweight one costs well over $1000.
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It does sound strange. Maybe he has an issue with personal space and using a wheelchair keeps people away from him. You know how some people are - they act like they can catch something if they get too close. My brothers wife has done it with Abby - once she found out Abby was Autistic, she stopped paying attention to Abby and their kids stopped playing with her
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Have to chime in here. He probably was NOT faking. There are all sorts of hidden disabilities that make walking difficult, painful, or life-threatening. Just as you can't look at someone's unruly child and assume they do not have an issue like autism, you can't look at a person in a wheelchair and know they can really walk perfectly fine.
Maybe he has balance issues. Maybe walking around the car is okay, but the UNKNOWN length of a walk into a restaurant and to a table is not okay.
My father, when he was younger, looked perfectly fine except a slight limp. In reality, I can't tell you how many times we were told to 'say goodbye'. Cancer, cardiovascular issues (some hereditary), lungs burned by Agent Orange, wounds inflicted by snipers, and an artificial knee all combined to make it difficult for dad to walk far.

Take it from the granddaughter of a man with paralysis from polio, the daughter of the above man, and mother of a spinal cord injured girl (young woman) - what they would all prefer you do is to say "Hope I'm not being a pest, but just wondering, why are you in the chair?" Yes, it's nosy, but it's not judgmental.
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Gotta disagree that it's ever acceptable for anyone but a young kid to ask such very personal questions as, "Why are you in the chair?"

Strangers' health concerns are simply none of your business unless you're attending an educational or charity event where a disease or disability is the focus.

People needing various assistive devices want to live as normal lives as they can. Answering nosy questions is not regarded as normal by well-mannered people.
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I have vasculitis and I am capable of walking but it is extremely painful when I'm in flair. It is even worse standing so I never go anywhere that could potentially have a long line alone because I may not make it. There are many possibilities. I try not to assume the worst when I see things like that because there is no point in being angry about something when I don't have the whole story.
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Gotta disagree that it's ever acceptable for anyone but a young kid to ask such very personal questions as, "Why are you in the chair?"

Strangers' health concerns are simply none of your business unless you're attending an educational or charity event where a disease or disability is the focus.

People needing various assistive devices want to live as normal lives as they can. Answering nosy questions is not regarded as normal by well-mannered people.
I would agree that other's health concerns aren't yours, but I'm standing by my assertion that it would be preferable to being judged and stared at. My grandfather, father, and daughter would always give very short answers that satisfied people's curiosity; "polio", "I was injured in the service", "I have a spinal cord injury, no it wasn't a car accident".

However, my original point was and still is: no-one can judge whether another person needs an adaptive device, other than trained medical personnel in a medical setting (I don't look at people in chairs in public and decide why they're in it). If you don't feel comfortable asking what led them to be in the chair/use the walker/use a cane/whatever, do not try to guess. Just assume the majority of people using chairs/adaptive devices/handicapped tags need them.
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