Been Away for a while - PassPorter - A Community of Walt Disney World, Disneyland, Disney Cruise Line, and General Travel Forums
PassPorter.com
Award-winning travel guidebooks

   guidebooks   |   news   |   podcasts   |   boards   |   blog   |   worksheets   |   photos   |   articles   |   updates   |   register   |   follow us on


Forums Closed
As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.

So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.

Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.

And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.

We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm​. You made it all happen.

There are other changes as well.

Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:

We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.

It's time to move on and move forward.

PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.

But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.

So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.

And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.

That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!

If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.

So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!

Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!

Go Back   PassPorter - A Community of Walt Disney World, Disneyland, Disney Cruise Line, and General Travel Forums > PassPorter Villa: Sharing the Fun Together > The Family Room: Family and Friends
Register


Welcome! We're happy you've found the PassPorter Community -- the friendliest place to plan your vacation to Walt Disney World, Disney Cruise Line, Disneyland, and the world in general! You are now viewing the PassPorter Message Board Community as a guest, which gives you limited access. As our guest, feel free to browse our messages by selecting the forum you want to visit from the list below.

To post messages and ask questions, join our FREE community today and you'll get access to tools and resources not available to guests, such as our vacation countown timers, "living" avatars, private messaging system, database searches, downloads, and a special PassPorter discount code. Registration is fast, simple, and completely free. Just click the Join Our Community link.

If you think you've already joined, log in below now. If you don't remember your member name or password, please visit our Member Name and Password Recovery page. You are also welcome to contact us.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-28-2013, 03:06 AM   #1
Charlie97
Community Rank: Trekker
 
Charlie97's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Texas Baby!!!! Where Else would anyone wana live
Posts: 1,297

Post Thanks / Like
Been Away for a while

I haven't posted here for quite some time now, and I have pretty much confined myself to a little shell. Even at work I used to go out and eat with my motorcycle partner or some of the other guys; but have kept my distance. I was making plans to meet with PamelaK back in October, when Charlie (DD) and I went to a concert in Houston. Just minutes before heading out, my best friend from Houston, whom we were going to stay with, called me up and told me his father had a massive heart attack; so he was on his way down as soon as he loaded up his car.

We have been pals for so long, that I naturally went to the hospital to check on his father. Since the passing of his mom, my buddy has distanced himself from his father and his sister. I waited in the lobby of the hospital and would give him updates anytime I received one. Just an hour prior to his arrival, Charlie and I headed out for Houston. We arrived shortly after 10:30 pm, and made ourselves at home at his house. His wife had some cold adult beverages waiting for me, and she and I talked and sipped our drinks until about 5am. We went to bed, and I woke up shortly after 11am. Charlie, my Godson, and his younger brother were barely making their way to the kitchen for food, so I washed up and began making something for them.

The day passed, and Charlie and I headed out to the concert around 3pm. We arrived at the Woodlands around 5, and walked around the Pavilion and mall until the concert started. The concert was good, and Charlie could not stop talking about it all the way to our friend's house. We arrived home around 2am, showered and fell asleep. Our trip back home to the Valley was nice, but too quick. I really enjoyed our time alone. My friends father came out okay after the surgery, and in talking to him later in the week, he broke down on me, and told me that he had been wanting to call his dad to see how he was doing...but he never did. He had a lot of remorse for not calling him, and his emotions told me that he was really scared of losing him. I cried inside with him, thinking how my estranged parents shunned me from the family two years ago.

For those new to the drama, I will not go into detail, just know that on Christmas Eve 2011 I was involved in an altercation at work that shook me up to my very core. I have been shot at 3 times at work, stabbed once, followed home 2 times, threatened more times that I care to remember, resuscitated three people from the brink of death, only to have one turn around and sue me and the agency...but I had never experienced anything like that night. The following morning I drove to my parents house and broke down and apologized to them. For years, threats were made to me by some scumbag, I would tell them to do their worst to me. Followed by "I have made my Peace with my God...so by all means, do it".

That day I told my parents that the Peace I needed to make, was with them. I was accepted back into the house, and six months later; the volcano erupted. They both let their anger out on me. I was kicked out of their house and told it was best for me not to communicate with them anymore. They changed the locks to their doors, and I heard the words no child (young or old) ever should hear his mother say..."I prayed to God why I ever had you". I walked out, and never turned back. I have run into them here and there, but we never acknowledge each other. They have yet to meet their youngest granddaughter Elizabeth, and I seriously doubt that will happen anytime soon.

What troubles me the most is I am out of the family, fine, but they tend to take it out on my brother, his family, and my sister and her children. We found out through two cousins that my younger sister had a miscarriage back in October. We learned about this in mid December. I have yet to be told anything by my younger sister. All the other family members found out before my siblings. This Christmas Rae (DGF) and I talked and argued a bit over my parents, and how my older sister asked me to please go make peace with them. I flat out told her I tried that already. They cast me out and threw the proverbial olive branch in my face.

I just found it easier to isolate myself for the time being. On top of all this, back in early November, another childhood friend called and told me that his mother was in the hospital also. She suffered a mild stroke. She is much better now, but it was a real shock to hear that she had suffered a stroke. I just found it better to isolate myself for a while, no, really, I am okay and will not fall into that dark place. I just found it easier to withdraw a bit and get my thoughts together. This thing with my parents has been sad, but oh well. It is what they wanted after all.

It feels good to get feelings, thoughts and emotions off one's chest...even though it is with a Disney Family I have yet to meet. And PamelaK, I truly am sorry. I do hope we can meet soon. I still have your number and plan to call you soon if that is okay.

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy Hanukkah....and a Happy New Year to you all. Thank you for allowing me to share my troubles. And I hope I haven't missed too much around here.
__________________

My Countdown Counting down to: February 13, 2015 Rachel and I get away from here for the weekend
My Previous TripsPOFQ...2007, Allstar Movie Resort ....2012
Charlie97 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2013, 03:22 AM   #2
chezp
PassPorter Message Board Manager
PassPorter Guide Author

Community Rank:
Legend VIP
 
chezp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Maidstone, Kent, UK
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 190,285

Post Thanks / Like
I am so sorry for everything you've been going through.
__________________

Relaxing on board the Magic. The trip report for our back-to-back cruises on the Disney Magic has started!
My Countdown Counting down to: 2019
Happy New Year!
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous Trips21 trips to WDW, 6 to Disneyland in California, 9 to Disneyland Paris, 1 to Hong Kong Disneyland, 1 to Tokyo Disney, 1 to Aulani, 1 to Hilton Head, 2 to Vero Beach and 13 Disney cruises on the Magic, Wonder, Dream and Fantasy
chezp is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2013, 06:55 AM   #3
3dogknight
Community Rank: Trekker
 
3dogknight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: michigan
Posts: 1,219

Post Thanks / Like
__________________
Joe-the 3dogknight

My Countdown Counting down to: OKW family reunion
OKW is the best
My Previous TripsI visit WDW yearly and I am a vacation club member at OKW. DL 3 times ,DCL 4 times, Disney Vero beach 2006 and 2009,2014,All Star Sports 2016.poly bungalows 2018
3dogknight is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2013, 08:00 AM   #4
Teresa
Community Rank: Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indiana , USA
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 26,527

Post Thanks / Like
I'm sorry you've had to go through so much turmoil. It's hard when family doesn't love you the way they should. Your sister's miscarriage, she may have never intended anyone to know about. Maybe she told a friend who told more people when she expected it to remain quiet. Honestly, it's not something I'd have told anyone more than my best friend(s). I've had a few of them, and except for the ones that happened after we'd told the family I was pregnant, we didn't tell anyone. It's a private hurt. Don't hold that against your sister. Just let her know you heard about it and how sad you are for her.
Pixies that you can find some peace in your relationships, no matter how it turns out.
__________________
My PassPorter Bookshelf
Teresa is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2013, 09:20 AM   #5
rella
Community Rank: Trailblazer
 
rella's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Concierge Level: 10
Posts: 5,054

Post Thanks / Like
Welcome back.............sorry for what you have been put through..........stay strong with the support you have with your "family" and friends........I consider you "a hero".
__________________
MaryLou
My Countdown Counting down to: next vacation to BWVs
Vacation planned
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous Trips1996 Polynesian (our 1st trip..25th anniversary..ours and WDW)-1997 Polynesian-1998 Grand Floridian-1999 Grand Floridian (became DVC members BWV)-2000 BoardWalk- 2002 Polynesian-2004 BoardWalk (August & November)-2005 BoardWalk-2006 BoardWalk-2007 Old Key West (July) BoardWalk (November)--2009 Old Key West-2011 BoardWalk-2013 Bay Lake Towers-2014 BoardWalk-2015 Old Key West-2016 BoardWalk & Vero Beach-2017 Bay Lake Towers (September) BoardWalk (December)-2018 Polynesian & the Villas at Grand Floridian
rella is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2013, 10:44 AM   #6
Huntermom
Community Rank: Explorer
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Northern New England
Posts: 12,249

Post Thanks / Like
Charlie, you are in my thoughts and prayers. Please get some ppropfessional help in regard to what to do about your relationship with your parents. it may not change anything but it may help you understand it better and let go of some of the hurt feelings.

I hope your new year is better.
__________________

Charlie
Huntermom is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2013, 12:16 PM   #7
KMB733
PassPorter Guide

Community Rank:
Legend Extraordinaire
 
KMB733's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Ballston Lake, NY
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 46,162

Post Thanks / Like
I'm very sorry for everything you are going through with your family.


Many blessings for a Happy New Year!
__________________
Kathy
PassPorter Co-Guide for: Making More Magic
My Countdown Counting down to: Christmas
Merry Christmas
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous TripsWDW June 1979, WDW 1985, WDW 1987, WDW Oct 2003, WDW March 2004, WDW Oct 2004, WDW Sept 2005--Pop Century , WDW Nov 2006--Pop Century, WDW Jan 2007--Pop Century, WDW Nov/Dec 2009--Pop Century, DLR Oct 2011, WDW Dec 2014
KMB733 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2013, 02:48 PM   #8
Luvsun
Wishing I was at WDW!
PassPorter's Club Passholder


What's this?

PassPorter Guide

Community Rank:
Legend Extraordinaire
 
Luvsun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Southwestern Florida, USA
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 39,153

Post Thanks / Like
I am so sorry about all of the family issues and the very sad way you are being treated by your family!
I do hope that the next year brings you peace!
__________________

Luvsun ~ Passporter Guide for~Making More Magic, Going Behind the Scenes, Feasting and Snacking, and The Sunroom
My Countdown Counting down to: Spring fun at WDW!
Enjoying the Flower and Garden festival at WDW!
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous TripsChristmas 1971 first visit for our family, 1978 River Country and MK (honeymoon), March 1989 first WDW visit for my three sons, Jan. 1996 Poly, Jan. 2000 AS Sport and Disney Institute Bungalows ( now SSR), April 03 AKL, Aug. 04 Pop, April 05 AKL, Aug. 05 Pop and BC, April 06 WL, Sep. 06 POFQ, April 07 Poly, August 07 BWI, October 07 POR, Dec. 07 OKW. Feb. 08 CS, April 08 WLV, June 08 OKW and AKLV, Nov. 08 AKLV (solo trip!), Feb. 09 SSR, May 09 SSR (DoD tour - solo!), Oct. 09 BCV, Jan. 10 OKW for my birthday!, April 10 AKLV, Aug. 10 WLV, Dec, 10 WLV and ALKV., April 2011 POFQ, June 2011 AKLV Club level and Kidani Village, Nov 2011 OKW, June 2012 AKLV, Oct. 2012, CBR, April 2013, BWV, Oct. 2013 VWL, AKL Kidani Village May 2014, WL Aug. 2014, Art of Animation Oct. 2014, Dec. 2014 WLV, May 2015 OKW, July 2015 BLT, Oct. 2015 AKL Kidani, Sep. 2016 Polynesian Villas/Beach Club Villas, Dec. 2016 WLV, May 2017 BCV, Sep. 2017 All Star Movies, Nov. 2017 AKLV Jambo House, Feb. 2018 WLV, May 2018 WLV
Luvsun is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2013, 02:56 PM   #9
Cam22
Batman's Gal/Mickey's Pal
PassPorter's Club Passholder


What's this?

PassPorter Guide

Community Rank:
Legend VIP
 
Cam22's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Owensboro, KY USA
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 95,254

Post Thanks / Like
I hope the new year brings you peace and joy.
__________________
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous TripsAKL Jambo April/May 2017--SSR/OKW Sept/Oct 2016 --AKL Kidani May 2016 -- Polynesian Village Resort May 2015 -- OKW/Magic December 2014 -- AKL Jambo House October 2014 -- VWL May 2014--SSR October 2013--AKL/Kidani June 2013--CBR October 2012--BWI June 2012--AKV Jambo House/Kidani Village June 2011 -- November 2010 Beach Club -- June 2010 Beach Club -- October 2009 CBR and Gaylord Palms -- June 2009 AKV/Kidani Village -- June 2008 VWL --June 2007 OKW--June 2006 Disney Wonder/SSR -- June 2005 SSR -- June 2004 VWL -- June 2003 AKL -- August 1997 Off Property -- March 1980 Cocoa Beach
Cam22 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2013, 04:01 PM   #10
CinderAbby
Community Rank: Legend
 
CinderAbby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Eastern Massachusetts
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 19,490

Post Thanks / Like
I'm so sorry to hear about all of your troubles Carlos. Why is it when we get one family drama finally sorted out (you and Charlie and your ex) another one rears it's head. I have no advice but I do send lots of Pixies, Prayers and hugs your way.
__________________
Disney 2018 TR COMPLETED 10-20-18 POSTS 266 - 273
Looking for my previous TR's? Here they are
My Previous TripsAll WDW - July 1980 off property - July 1981 FW - July 1983 FW - July 1985 FW - August 1987 FW - July 1988 Treehouse Villas - July 1990 Treehouse Villas - July 1997 FW - August 2006 AS Sports, 1st time with DH and DD - August 2008 AS Sports - August 2009 AS Sports - August 2010 AS Sports - July 2011 AS Sports - August 2013 AS Music - August 2014 AS Music - August 2015 AS Music - August 2016 AS Music - August 2018 AS Music, Kate (lovewdw2) joined us for the weekend
CinderAbby is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2013, 04:15 PM   #11
wishes
Community Rank: Jetsetter
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Norwalk, CT
Posts: 2,967

Post Thanks / Like
I'm so sorry to hear of all of this, Charlie. Sending you
__________________
First trip DW--Nov. 1975; Senior Class Trip DW--Oct. 1979; First trip w/kids--Oct. 1995; Halloween at DW--Oct. 2002; Spring Break at DW--April 2004; Christmas/Pop Warner Nationals-POR--Dec. 2005;Cruisin'--April 2008; Mom/Son trip-POP--March 2010;Taggin' along w/DD on DH's conference-BWI--Oct. 2011; 50th birthday with the Gartner Geeks--Adults only!--BWI--Oct. 2012; The Trip That Almost Wasn't--BWI--Oct. 2013; We climbed The Summit (National Cheer Competition)--ASMovies--May 2014
My PassPorter Bookshelf
wishes is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2013, 05:49 PM   #12
Starbright
Community Rank: Jetsetter
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,605

Post Thanks / Like
I was thinking of you the other day, and wondering where you were.
I am so sorry that you are going through all of this with your family!!! Holidays tend to bring the hurts more to the surface too and so many people find it magnified during this time.
I agree
ith Teresa re you're sister and her miscarriage. She may have wanted to keep it quet, and she may not know who knows and who doesn't. For myself it was a difficult subject to bring up with others. Don't hold this against her.
Starbright is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2013, 09:41 PM   #13
Eeyore Tattoo
PassPorter's Club Passholder


What's this?

PassPorter Guide

Community Rank: Explorer
 
Eeyore Tattoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Texas
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 11,304

Post Thanks / Like
__________________
My Previous TripsCBR: May 1999, CBR:October 2001 Disneyland: June 2002, CSR: October: 2003, POR: May 2005, POFQ: Dec-Jan 2005-2006, POFQ: May 2007, POR :Dec. 2007, Disneyland:May 2008, Mousefest: Dec. 2008 Disneyland: June 2009 AKL Savanna: Oct. 2009 December Gathering BLT: Dec. 2009 BLT Oct. 2010 Paradise Pier Aug. 2011 BLT Nov. 2011 Disneyland/California Adventure 2013 AKV May 2013 SSR March 2015
Eeyore Tattoo is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2013, 10:06 PM   #14
joelsmom
Community Rank: Trailblazer
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 5,325

Post Thanks / Like

I'm sorry to hear about all of your troubles. I hope the new year brings you peace, comfort, and joy. Best wishes.
__________________
Susan
My Countdown Counting down to: Dreaming of a Disney Christmas 2019
I’ve Dreamed of a Disney Christmas. It’s Here!
My Previous TripsDL off-site June 1979, WDW off-site Sept 1985, All-Star Movies May 2002, All-Star Music June 2007, All-Star Sports May 2009, Pop Century June 2010, Coronado Springs October 2011, All-Star Sports May/June 2012, Pop Century May/June 2013, All-Star Movies October 2013, Tropicana Inn at Disneyland Resort June 2014, All-Star Music May 2015, All-Star Sports June 2016, All-Star Movies October 2016, Pop Century May/June 2017, All-Star Sports March 2018
joelsmom is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2013, 10:29 PM   #15
mcneal
Community Rank: Jetsetter
 
mcneal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Mont Belvieu, TX
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 2,086

Post Thanks / Like
My heart goes out to you. Families can be so difficult to cope with at times....most of us here know this little fact. My hope for you is that you can find peace with your situation and allow it to be stored in the very back of the closet. Leave it back there and don't let it get in the way of the rest of your life. Enjoy your love and your wonderful children. Thank you for all you do for our community.
__________________
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous TripsOrlando/Daytona Beach 1997 WDW Jan 2000 WDW(visit Daughter) June 2000 WDW Dec 2001 WDW/Universal Dec 2007 WDW April 2010 DCL Magic Nov 2012 WDW Sept 2014
mcneal is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump














Please login or register to hide these ads -- it's free and easy!

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:18 AM.

-->

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like v3.4.0 Patch Level 1 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
(c) 1998-2017 PassPorter Travel Press/MediaMarx, Inc.
Celebrating 19 Years of Making Dreams Come True
Ad Management plugin by RedTyger