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CAUTION !!! rant ahead
Can someone please explain to me the "new" definition of business casual dress. I have read almost every description of this on the WDW site,the restaurant site,and even looked it up in several dictionaries. As of September 2012, business causal ( at WDW) means, cutoff shorts,flip-flops,tshirts(regardless of the amount of sweat and food stains on it) tank tops,dirty blue jeans,slippers,ect. You name it,people wore it. Now there were some folks,us included, who dress appropriately. Nice dresses,slacks,button down shirts,even a few sport coats.
The folks at Disney seem more concerned about making sure that the "fast pass" times are adhered to stringently. Yes we saw CM make a few folks wait 5min. When the standby line was only a 10 min.wait!
Either you dress appropriately for a "Signature restaurant" or you eat at Pecos Bills,or Casey's. We spent a lot of money to eat at a nice place,and honestly I'd rather not sit next to a man wearing a sweaty "Grumpy" shirt,complaining about his five dollar beer. I'm quite disappointed in the fact that Disney has let this get out of hand. Maybe I'm wrong,maybe it has always been this way,but I doubt it,because we see it everyday,not just inside the bubble. Wearing of pajamas and slippers should be relegated to your own house, not the grocery store,or the Doctors office.
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I'm with you. Sure, people are on vacation and want to relax, but there are plenty of casual places to eat if they don't want to adhere to the dress code.
My DH and I happen to enjoy dressing up and eating at the nicer restaurants at WDW, because we have no really nice restaurants where we live. My DH's pet peeve is the men who wear their ballcaps in a restaurant. He enjoys wearing hats (he has a collection of fedoras), but he takes his hat off when he enters a restaurant.
I guess we're just a bit old-fashioned about this stuff. My mom always told me that you behave better when you dress-up, and I think she's right.
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Has the dress "code" changed? As far as I know, what is NOT PERMITTED in the dining room at Signature restaurants are torn cloths, cut offs, tank tops, swimwear, hats on men, and t-shirts with offensive pics or words.
Which of course does allow for shorts, jeans, most t-shirts and any sort of footwear.
I recall a # of years ago when Disney decided to get tough with dress codes--it backfired and they lost some business. My guess is that they now understand it's a more casual world -especially with folks on vacation at WDW.
Being 67 years old I understand where you guys are coming from. But I'm now so used to seeing casual dress at weddings, funerals (saw a guy in shorts and a t-shirt at a recent funeral viewing) etc that it no longer bothers me. I dress the way I think appropriate and just allow the establishment to enforce (or not enforce) any dress requirements.
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I understand that people are on vacation and may not have packed appropriate dress clothes for signature dinners. But if you plan a signature meal - you know you are going there and should plan appropriately. It's not like you are walking into McDonalds because you're hungry and "this will do". However, that being said, ChukkerB and I believe that you get treated with respect if you show respect. I would have been appalled at seeing someone at a funeral in shorts! We do see "casual" dress taking to extreme in everyday life, as Chuck said - the "lounge pants" (ie pjs) at the store, etc. We once went to a very nice (think Signature 2 TS) restaurant for his b'day and since it was in a casino - we had all sorts of people walking in off the floor in shorts, flip flops, ball caps while carrying a bucket of coins, etc. I was offended. I spent a lot of money to have a certain experience and it did not include BillyBob coming in and sitting next to us in a "wife-beater" tank and cut offs. That goes for Disney as well. I spent a lot of money for a certain upscale experience and that was ruined by Joe Schmo walking by in cammo shorts, a tank and flip flops.
We have never done a signature restaurant so I can't say how the dress goes but I know I would abide by what is stated. I have been to funerals and wedding if my kids tried to wear what some had on, they would not go until they changes.
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Just becasue you wear a t-shirt and shorts doesn't mean you have to look like a slob. Everytime time we have been to California Grill I have wore shorts and usually a t-shirt.
And you were within the guidelines of Disneys own code.
It's up to them to establish a code and enforce it. They have chosen to be extremely lenient. They should certainly enforce the "NOT PERMITTED" part of the code, but beyond that---
I think their use of the term "Business casual" may be part of the problem. What they allow is not what most folks would ordinarily expect given a general understanding of the term.
And what they have in place isn't really a "code"--it's actually what they SUGGEST you wear..what they want you to wear. But then they follow that with the disclaimer about those very few things that aren't permitted.
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Not permitted in dining room: Tank tops, swimwear, hats for gentleman, cut offs, or torn clothing. While T-shirts are now allowed, the policy remains that T-shirts with offensive language or graphics are not acceptable.
This is for Victoria & Albert's
Note: Proper Attire may include the following
Men: Dinner jackets with dress pants/slacks and shoes. Ties are optional (Please no jeans, shorts, sandals, flip-flops, or tennis shoes)
Ladies: Cocktail dress, dressy pant suit, skirt/blouse or nice dress. (Please no jeans, shorts, capri pants, sandals, flip-flops or tennis shoes)
When we go to these places, we're going for food and atmosphere above and beyond what we can get at Mickey D's or Olive Garden. I can't imagine someone having the nerve to walk in to V & A's wearing tank tops and jammie pants and the like. I think it would be disrespectful to the chef, the staff, and one's fellow patrons. I understand people can get all huffy about it with the staff - I once heard a story about a guy stomping out of a Sig restaurant, wife in tow, b/c they wouldn't seat him unless he took off his ballcap. And I know a complaint against a CM can affect their raises and promotions. Maybe if more people complained about them not enforcing the dress code, they would override the ones who complain about not being able to wear whatever wherever.
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Pat (a.k.a., PFlamingo) "We are the people our parents warned us about."
That is one of the reasons I never eat in those restaurants. I'm on vacation and don't really want to pack another set of clothes. Vacation means jeans/shorts and tank tops/t-shirts/sweatshirts - depending on the weather. However, with that being said, if I chose to eat at one of those places, I would certainly bring a pair of slacks and shirt - as if I were going to work (or at the very least, a pair of khakis and polo shirt).
I really hate how casual things have gotten. Nothing irks me more than seeing people in the grocery store in their pjs. Pjs and sweats are for in the house only; or maybe for driving in the car on long trips.
Even on vacation, we fit within the guidelines of WDW's "business casual". We're not fancy dressers usually, but we do try to look decent no matter where we go.
As for the ball caps - yeah. One of my biggest pet-peeves is men/boys who have evidently never been taught to remove their hats indoors.
I eat at the signature restaurants all the time, and have no difficulty with khakis and a polo shirt.
I once saw a seater at Flying Fish Cafe ask a "gentleman" to remove his cap. I couldn't hear, but it was obvious that he asked if he had to remove it to eat at FFC. When told "yes", he grabbed the arm of his much younger companion and almost but not quite stomped out of the restaurant.
I have always assumed that he did not want her to stare at his bald spot all during the meal!
What a shame that people aren't adhering to the dress code and Disney aren't enforcing it. I like it when people dress up a bit - to me, that's part of the attraction of the signature restautants.
Amen to that...I may run out without makeup at 5:30am, to grab donuts for the boys but I get so aggrevated when I see people running around in house slippers, pajama pants and just a mess. When I pay a lot of money for a vacation, Iexpect others to care about their appearance also.
Atleast get clothes on and comb your hair. I am not high maintenance by any means, it takes me about 10 minutes to get ready to run out, but look at yourself before you walk out the door
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I like it when people dress up a bit - to me, that's part of the attraction of the signature restautants.
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