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We are docking in Vancouver at about 8am Saturday morning. We have two options -
1. Try to find somewhere to store 8 suitcases for the day and spend the day touring Vancouver... before catching the 5pm train to Seattle for our flight home on Sunday. Cost - ~160.00 for 4 adults. BTW - if anyone knows where to stash 8 suitcases - please give me a hint!
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2. Rent an SUV from Alamo (at the cruise terminal (opens at 9am) - or the airport?) and drive to Victoria (3 hours) tour Butchart Gardens, then drive another 3 hours to Seattle for our flight home. Cost ~250.00 for 4 adults, plus gas.
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Although we had more time than you, we chose to skip Buchart Gardens and just concentrate on Vancouver since it has so much to offer and I am glad we did. We rented bikes one day just a short 5 minute walk from Canada Place and rode through Stanley Park. The weather was beautiful and it was the most amazing experience. It took right at two hours. And there is a wonderful restuarant just a little way from the bike rental place where we had dinner. Restaurant is right on Coal Harbor - name Cardero's - best mussells I have ever eaten in my life - but make sure you make reservations in advance because it is a popular place.
We also bought tickets for Vancouver Trolley which leaves from Canada Place Pier and has two separate loops around Vancouver where you can see bunches all in one bus ride and the drivers give personal narration as you go around. Another great way to see the city.
There is a company inside Canada Place Pier that offers baggage storage either before or after your cruise. Here is a link to their website:
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I'd go to Butchart if you've never been. The ferry system was great (much better than the ones we're used to here). It took us a couple of hours to do Butchart, then we drove down to Victoria, and back on the ferry. I had originally planned to do it like you.....go from Vancouver, to Butchart, ferry to Port Angeles and then Seattle but rental car costs were thru the roof so it didn't end up working out that way (I ended up getting a $15/day rental at YVR for the day). Is the ferry cost factored in? It cost us I think $115 each way on the ferry to go over to Vancouver Island and back.
The botanical gardens at UBC are lovely, but they're nothing like Butchart Gardens. If you have a few days in Vancouver, they're worth considering. For a single day?? I'd suggest spending time in Stanley Park, which is a whole lot closer to Canada Place. You could rent a bike, ride around the park, visit the aquarium (if it doesn't offend your professional sensibilities)... Maybe split the day between Stanley Park and Granville Island (lunch based on browsing around the Public Market and vicinity is highly recommended).
I definitely think Victoria in a day is biting off a whole lot more than you can chew. The ferry isn't exactly a drive up and drive on experience. It's about 45 minutes from downtown Vancouver to the ferry, allow at least a half-hour for queuing/boarding (check with the ferry line for arrival time recommendations), 90 minutes on the ferry, a half-hour drive from the ferry to Butchart Gardens.... if your plan was to return to Vancouver, rather than ferry down to Port Angeles, I think the last train out of Vancouver is at around 6:00pm. If everything fell nicely into place, figure you'd get 90 minutes to tour Butchart.
Note also that the train from Vancouver to Seattle is actually a train only a few times a day. The rest of the time it's a bus, so be sure you choose the right "train." I suspect that you could check your bags over at the rail station after your cruise, then head out to tour the town from there. Pacific Central Station is only a couple of SkyTrain stops from the heart of downtown, so whatever time you might spend heading over to the station in the morning will probably be more than made up for by not having to gather up your luggage elsewhere in the afternoon.
Where were you planning to stay in Seattle, and when is your flight the next day? The new light rail line from Downtown to the airport is fabulous, whether you're heading right to the airport from Seattle Union Station, or whether you stay somewhere downtown overnight before heading to the airport the next day.
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Thanks for all the ideas. Regarding the train to Seattle - we are looking at the Cascade express - last train out of Vancouver about 530pm. We leave at 700am on Sunday morning on FREE southwest tickets.... so now it is a matter of 1) verifying we can check train baggage first thing in the morning at the train station and 2) planning our list of things to do between 800amish and 430pmish in Vancouver.