Save for down payment or pay off debt? - PassPorter - A Community of Walt Disney World, Disneyland, Disney Cruise Line, and General Travel Forums
PassPorter.com
Award-winning travel guidebooks

   guidebooks   |   news   |   podcasts   |   boards   |   blog   |   worksheets   |   photos   |   articles   |   updates   |   register   |   follow us on


Forums Closed
As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.

So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.

Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.

And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.

We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm​. You made it all happen.

There are other changes as well.

Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:

We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.

It's time to move on and move forward.

PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.

But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.

So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.

And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.

That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!

If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.

So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!

Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!

Go Back   PassPorter - A Community of Walt Disney World, Disneyland, Disney Cruise Line, and General Travel Forums > PassPorter Villa: Sharing the Fun Together > The Office: Budgeting and Reward Programs
Register


Welcome! We're happy you've found the PassPorter Community -- the friendliest place to plan your vacation to Walt Disney World, Disney Cruise Line, Disneyland, and the world in general! You are now viewing the PassPorter Message Board Community as a guest, which gives you limited access. As our guest, feel free to browse our messages by selecting the forum you want to visit from the list below.

To post messages and ask questions, join our FREE community today and you'll get access to tools and resources not available to guests, such as our vacation countown timers, "living" avatars, private messaging system, database searches, downloads, and a special PassPorter discount code. Registration is fast, simple, and completely free. Just click the Join Our Community link.

If you think you've already joined, log in below now. If you don't remember your member name or password, please visit our Member Name and Password Recovery page. You are also welcome to contact us.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-21-2011, 02:17 PM   #1
graygables
Community Rank: Explorer
 
graygables's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Near a Tower of Terror at the moment...
Posts: 13,884

Post Thanks / Like
Save for down payment or pay off debt?

Here's the sitch: We've been in a bad financial place for a long time. Years of erratic income from self-employment wreaked havoc on the credit scores. This year, we are finally getting some monkeys off our back as far as credit card and loan debt. Hubby lives in a jointly owned home in Ohio. I live in a $$ rental in Florida. I have a real job with benefits now and I don't see myself going back to Ohio any time soon. The market in the area here is very depressed, so if my credit were good, I could get a steal on a house, like, yesterday. However, I need a year or so to let the dust settle and let the credit bounce back up to where it needs to be to qualify for a mortgage on my own.

I hate writing the check to the landlord every month. It galls me, esp when I see how much house I could have around here for a lot less, insurance and taxes included. I'd really like to look into a house next year. However, I am still on the mortgage in Ohio, so it would be as though I were buying a "second" home. I also have a hefty car payment that will be left. Part of me thinks I should use what I was planning to save for a down payment to pay off my car and focus hubby's extra on paying off the Ohio house, THEN start thinking about my own home ownership. That would delay me to 2013, but would give me an extra year of distance from the bad ju-ju on the credit. It would cost me probably $3600 in "wasted" money in the rental, plus who knows what the housing market will be like then?

Save or pay off more?
__________________
Link to my home building journey in photos: http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s...Villa%20Bella/
The Oasis at Villa Bella: http://s155.photobucket.com/user/gra...20Bella?page=1

The views and opinions expressed on this post are mine and do not necessarily represent or reflect those of The Walt Disney Company and Affiliated Companies
graygables is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 02:20 PM   #2
ilovedisney247
 
ilovedisney247's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 15 Minutes from the House of Mouse!
Concierge Level: 1
Posts: 13,838

Post Thanks / Like
I would pay down your current debt, as it will increase your credit score and make it easier to get a loan in the future. Good luck, I was looking into buying a house here and I just don't have the ability to get that kind of loan right now.
__________________
My Previous TripsWDW 1985 off property, WDW 1987 Contemporary, WDW 1989 Poly, WDW Sept. 2006 Pop, WDW Sept. 2007 CBR WDW Aug 2008 ASMu Dec 2008 SSR, May 2009 SSR, June 2009 SSR/VWL, Oct 2009 AKVC, Dec 2009 AKV, June 2010 SSR, Oct 2010 BWV, Nov 2010 CR, Dec 2010 ASp, April 2011 AKVC, June 2011 SSR/ASM, July 2011, ASp, Oct 2011 AKVC, Dec 2011 VGC
ilovedisney247 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 03:29 PM   #3
RobDVC
Facebook Addict
PassPorter's Club Passholder


What's this?

Community Rank:
Legend Extraordinaire
 
RobDVC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Philadelphia
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 39,682

Post Thanks / Like
I'd lean towards paying off more.
__________________
RobDVC - about me
My Countdown Counting down to: Another BLT visit
..See Ya Real Soon!
My PassPorter Bookshelf <table width=100% height=75 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 border=0><tr><td width=86 style='background-image: url(http://www.passporter.com/concierge/ticker/countdown7873-428.png); background-repeat: no-repeat;'><a href='http://www.passporterboards.com/concierge/back-to-the-beach-club-villas-trip428.html' border=0><img src='http://www.passporter.com/forums/club/images/bookshelf/transparent.png' height=75 width=86 border=0></a></td><td align=left style='background-image: url(http://www.passporter.com/forums/club/images/bookshelf/shelf7873.png); background-repeat: no-repeat;'><a href='http://www.passporterboards.com/forums/club/bookshelf.php?member=7873&name=RobDVC' border=0><img src='http://www.passporter.com/forums/club/images/bookshelf/transparent.png' height=75 width=200 border=0></a></td></tr></table>
My Previous TripsMay1991 Treehouse Villas - May1993 POFQ - July1998 CSR - May2002 ASSP - August2004 ASMO - December2005 SSR - August2006 BCV - April2007 POFQ - August2008 BWV - May2009 AKV Kidani - AugSep2010 BLT - Aug2011 BCV - Aug2013 BLT
RobDVC is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 03:43 PM   #4
jimmymac
Community Rank:
Legend Extraordinaire
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 35,829

Post Thanks / Like
I vote for pay off more
__________________
Jim
My Countdown Counting down to:
My Previous Trips2015 BC, 2014 BC, 2014 BWI, 2013 BC, 2013 GF, 2012 BC, 2012 OKW, 2012 BWI, 2011 BWI, 2011 BC, 2010 BC, 2010 CSR, 2010 Kidani, 2009 GCV, 2009 BC, 2008 BWV, 2008 Grand Californian, 2008 BC, 2007 BWI, 2007 POFQ, 2007 Grand Californian, 2006 BC, 2006 POR, 2006 WL, 2005 BC, 2005 BWI, 2005 CBR, 2004 CR, 2004 GF, 2004 POFQ 2004 Poly, 2003 Poly, 2003 CSR, 2003 POR, 2002 AKL, 2002 GF, 2001 AKL, 2001 Poly, 2000 CBR, 1999 CBR, 1998 ASMo, 1997 ASMSp, 1996 ASMo, 1995 ASSp, 1991 Wyndham, 1989 off site, 1985 Off Site
jimmymac is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 04:02 PM   #5
Pax
Community Rank: Scout
 
Pax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Dracut, MA
Posts: 4,748

Post Thanks / Like
Your debt is accruing interest faster than any savings plan possible would.

IOW, $1,000 of debt will grow faster than $1,000 of savings.

So in the long run, you're better off paying down an existing debt, than you are putting those exact same dollars into savings. Even the best savings account nowadays will make, what, 2%/year? 3%/year, maybe?

Meanwhile, credit cards and mortgages are, what, 15%/year? More?

IOW: 15% of $1000 is $150. 3% of $1000 is $30. By paying the debt off, you "earn" an extra $120 you wouldn't have had, if you'd saved those dollars instead.

...

Always pay off your debts, first. If you have money you can afford to save ... DON'T SAVE, pay your debts with it instead! Aim for 0 debt, THEN start saving!
__________________
--Sean
My Previous TripsWDW July 1985 (offsite) ;; WDW January 2001 (ASMo) ;; WDW January 2009 (POP) ;; WDW January 2014 (AoA)
Pax is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 04:14 PM   #6
lexiemom
Community Rank: Explorer
 
lexiemom's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Kansas
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 7,718

Post Thanks / Like
I would pay debt's off first to increase your credit score and lower your debt to income ratio.
__________________
Aimee

lexiemom is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 06:08 PM   #7
bonphil
Community Rank: Jetsetter
 
bonphil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Indiana
Posts: 2,487

Post Thanks / Like
I would pay off debt first. Good Luck!!!
__________________
My Previous TripsWDW June 2002,June 2005, June 2011, June 2014
bonphil is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 06:14 PM   #8
EddieCVS
Community Rank: Scout
 
EddieCVS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Kearny,NJ
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 4,113

Post Thanks / Like
I'd have to agree with everyone and go with paying off the debt first.
__________________
Eddie
My Countdown Counting down to: Our 11th Disney World Trip!
Counting down the days!
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous TripsJuly "07" WDW All-Star-Movies/ Feb 27-March 3 "08" All-Star-Music/ August "08" All-Star-Movies/ January "09" French Quarter Port Orleans/ June "09" CBR/ Oct "09" Pop Century/ August 18-29 2011 PoP Century/ January 20-23 2012 PoP Century/ August 8 - 20 2012 ASM August 22 - 31, 2015 The Contemprary/PoP October 2015 All-Star Movie. March 2016 POFQ
EddieCVS is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 06:41 PM   #9
KHarrod
Community Rank: Adventurer
 
KHarrod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Concierge Level: 8
Posts: 685

Post Thanks / Like
I agree with everyone. DH and I have been doing the same for quite some time and are almost debt free, I can just taste it! Once that's done, then we'll start the savings! Good luck!
KHarrod is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 06:41 PM   #10
momex4
Community Rank: Traveler
 
momex4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: roanoke, Va
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 246

Post Thanks / Like
I'm with everyone on this pay off debt.
__________________
scfi-dine in
DVC member since March 2011
OKW home resort
My Previous TripsWDW sep 2011
momex4 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 11:32 PM   #11
graygables
Community Rank: Explorer
 
graygables's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Near a Tower of Terror at the moment...
Posts: 13,884

Post Thanks / Like
Thanks for the responses so far. Does it change anything if the interest rate on both the car and the mortgage is 5%?

How does the $3600 in extra rent money over the year of paying mortgage/car debt rather than saving for the down payment play into the calculation? And...should my goal really be to be debt-free before even starting to save the down payment to buy a house? (I still have 3 years left on the car). I won't have any CC debt, just the car/mortgage.
__________________
Link to my home building journey in photos: http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s...Villa%20Bella/
The Oasis at Villa Bella: http://s155.photobucket.com/user/gra...20Bella?page=1

The views and opinions expressed on this post are mine and do not necessarily represent or reflect those of The Walt Disney Company and Affiliated Companies
graygables is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2011, 11:44 PM   #12
Pax
Community Rank: Scout
 
Pax's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Dracut, MA
Posts: 4,748

Post Thanks / Like
Quote:
Originally Posted by graygables View Post
Thanks for the responses so far. Does it change anything if the interest rate on both the car and the mortgage is 5%?
The car is probably a lower payment. Finish it ASAP, so you can roll the WHOLE thing into the mortgage.

When making extra payments, by the way? DO NOT just make a larger-than-normal payment. Make a second, separate payment, and make sure it is labelled "APPLY TO PRINCIPLE". ^_^ That's what you want to do, reduce the principle portion of the loan ASAP ... as that's what the interest is calculated on.

If you pay an extra $1,000 to a mortgage, and allow the bank to "assume" it's intended to go towards the interest? Then you pay yourself off $100 faster.

OTOH, if you pay that extra $1,000 directly to the principle? Then you may be paid off $2,000 or$ 5,000 sooner!! That's because that particular chunk of principle won't be generating that 5% interest for 5, 10, 15, or however-many years ...!
__________________
--Sean
My Previous TripsWDW July 1985 (offsite) ;; WDW January 2001 (ASMo) ;; WDW January 2009 (POP) ;; WDW January 2014 (AoA)
Pax is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2011, 08:08 AM   #13
Teresa
Community Rank: Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indiana , USA
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 26,527

Post Thanks / Like
I agree with everyone - pay off debt first. However, if you're feeling the need to save, why not do both? Pay off the debt, but also put something away each month in savings. It needn't be much, but it will help you feel better about where you're going and what you're doing with your life.
__________________
My PassPorter Bookshelf
Teresa is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2011, 10:14 AM   #14
HiddenMickey
PassPorter's Club Passholder


What's this?

PassPorter Guide

Community Rank:
Legend Extraordinaire
 
HiddenMickey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 36,592

Post Thanks / Like
You've gotten great advice here! Good luck .
__________________


PassPorter Guide for the Staying in Style forum
HiddenMickey is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2011, 10:24 AM   #15
Eeyoresmom
PassPorter's Club Passholder


What's this?

PassPorter Guide

Community Rank: Trailblazer
 
Eeyoresmom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Philadelphia suburbs, PA
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 5,262

Post Thanks / Like
Think of it as not throwing away that money on rent . . . keep in mind, with home ownership comes lots of unexpected costs from repairs. Be glad that while you're saving for your home and paying down debt - you can rely on the lanlord to pay for any emergencies. I know it's not the same, but I think remembering that helps.

You'll be financially sound and in your own home soon!
__________________
My PassPorter Bookshelf <table width=100% height=75 border=0><tr><td style='background-image: url(http://www.passporter.com/forums/club/images/bookshelf/shelf10694.png); background-repeat: no-repeat;'><a href='http://www.passporterboards.com/concierge/bookshelf.php?member=10694&name=Eeyoresmom' border=0><img src='http://www.passporter.com/forums/club/images/bookshelf/transparent.png' height=75 width=100% border=0></a></td></tr></table>
Eeyoresmom is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump














Please login or register to hide these ads -- it's free and easy!

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:24 PM.

-->

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like v3.4.0 Patch Level 1 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
(c) 1998-2017 PassPorter Travel Press/MediaMarx, Inc.
Celebrating 19 Years of Making Dreams Come True
Ad Management plugin by RedTyger