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So anyway, I just booked our "annual" trip into town to see Disney on Ice. It's the Toy Story 3 show and Abby just loves those movies. So anyway, Lenny was all happy about it until I told him leave the camera home. Last year our Disney fix turned into a nightmare because the show announced we COULD record it while the ushers kept insisting that I could NOT to the point security got involved. Security went and checked their tapes to find out I was right in that we could record and I was given an apology but by that time, the damage was done and I was really bad off health wise because of it. I couldn't wait to get out of the show. Despite that, I'm willing to go back to have our little Disney fix but I want the camera left home. None of us watch the recording anyway so I don't know why Lenny wants to do it so badly.
When I told Lenny that though, he was like "oh come on, that was a year ago, saying no camera on the ticket doesn't really mean no cameras, Abby would want me to" and so on and so fourth. Lenny even asked Abby if he should take the camera. She said yes - so hence the title of my thread. Men - they are totally unbelievable. So needless to say, the show this year is either going to go one of three ways.
1 - the camera gets left home and we all enjoy the show or
2 - Lenny takes the camera, I stay home and they have a terrible time because Abby will be upset mommy's not there
3 - Lenny takes the camera, I stay home, Abby has a terrible time because mommy's not there and then they get kicked out for filming
I certainly hope number one ends up being the final scenario but if it's 2 or 3, I'm not going to pick up the pieces. If Lenny gets into that situation he's darn well going to deal with it himself. I am not going to go through what I did last year, no ifs ands or buts about it. He's lucky I even considered going back this year but I'll go only on the condition that the camera stays home, I don't care who whines and cries. Its hard, but I can turn a deaf ear to it and not feel guilty.
Well, I'm not sure which one to advise you to do. But I wanted to let you know that we just saw this at the United Center in Chicago (awesome show, btw! You will not be disappointed!) and there were soooo many flashes going off in the crowd. Lots and lots and lots of people had cameras. Just sayin'..... deciding what you will do!
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4. Lenny takes the camera, you go with, when security gets on him for the camera you say, "I have no idea who this man is," and continue to watch the show. Don't know what Abby's reaction to that would be, but you can blame Lenny for any problems b/c he asked her if he should bring the camera.
I know, I'm a rotten person. It's a good thing I never had kids. I'm from the school of, "Fine, go ahead and (insert dangerous and/or stupid action here), but don't come crying to me when you kill yourself."
Kids, men, no difference.
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I hope it goes well whatever you decide..... I'm also thinking maybe compromise- that he can bring the camera and if anything is said in any way, shape, or form to the effect of being asked not to use it, that he simply immediately puts it up without argument or complaining.......
I'm a follower of rules. They don't change just because I want them to.
If the tickets say "No Cameras" - then no cameras. To me, it's the same as me asking people to not smoke in my house and then they do. It's my house and if you can't abide by my rules, you can't stay. Period.
Personally, I used to hate it when I'd take the kids to those things and people would be filming or clicking pictures. The constant flashing is distracting, and having people around me put their elbows up in my face so they can get a better shot is annoying. I paid the same for my tickets as you did Bud, stop getting in my space.
I prefer to just remember things, and NOT have them on tape. How much does anyone really watch any of that???
I have another option: (number five, with Pat's)
5. You all go. Lenny takes the camera, and if security says something to him about it - then you don't get involved. If Lenny argues, you don't get involved. If Lenny gets thrown out - you and Abbey stay and bask in your knowledge you get to see the whole thing through.
I'm a follower of rules. They don't change just because I want them to.
I am too and it really bugs me when people think they're above the rules - even more when that person is my own husband.
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We saw Disney on Ice last month and video and photography was allowed as long as it was "for personal use."
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Maybe you can check with the venue and find out if recording is allowed. If it's not then leave the camera home and enjoy the show
See that's the thing. Disney on Ice announces that you can do the recordings but the venue says you can't. Who really takes precidence in that instance?
And for those saying there's another option of me going and staying out of it, sorry, that's not an option. I was so stressed out last year that was my stomach was in so many knots I was in agony, I was having chest pains and I was extremely, extremely nauseous. Even after they finally left us alone, I was so paranoid that anytime I saw someone out of the corner of my eye, I thought it was someone else there to approach us about the recording. If Lenny takes the camera again, that paranoia will kick in again - I know it will because just thinking too much about last year starts my stomach knotting up again and I'm not going to purposely put myself in that position again.
Who knows, maybe by the time Lenny gets home from work tonight he'll have a change of heart but if not, then he's going to have to deal with taking Abby by himself because I flat out refuse to go if the camera does.
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If the venue says you cannot tape or take pictures then that is what takes precedence. The venue likely has a contract with a video/camera company and by allowing taping of any kind it would violate that contract.
Wow, Darlene, that does sound bad! I don't think I'd want to put myself in that position either. I hope Lenny changes his mind about taking the camera.
Of course, "bad Pat" just might slip the battery out of the camera at the last minute. Or leave the thing on all day so the battery runs down. "Oops. Oh well, no video this time."
BTW, I tend to be a "rule follower," too. I especially hate when people insist on flashing cameras on the dark rides at WDW.
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I'm so sorry you're in this situation! Hopefully Lenny will change his mind, for the sake of all of you and your quality time together. that it all works out!
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We've seen Disney on Ice a couple of times at the O2 in London. The O2 has their own policy, which is nothing to do with shows, and we've learnt just not to bring my big camera. If they don't see a camera going in (and they don't with Mark's, which is small), then everything is fine. With Disney on Ice, they expressly said you could photograph or take video, as long as it was for personal use. This could be the situation you found yourself in - the venue having a different set of rules to the show itself...
I think Fortissimo gave you your answer. The venue controls. And I think security is probably hired and instructed by the venue. And I suspect The Disney announcement is a taped one.
So I would explain to Lenny that you got advice from someone who works in the arts and were told the venue controls. You were probably wrong last year even though you were eventually allowed to tape. You want to set a good example for Abby and also be considerate of others, so you are not going to tape.
I would also explain to Abby the same thing. If she asks why you did last year, I would just say "I didn't know which rule to follow and we followed the wrong one."
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