2yo on DDP - PassPorter - A Community of Walt Disney World, Disneyland, Disney Cruise Line, and General Travel Forums
PassPorter.com
Award-winning travel guidebooks

   guidebooks   |   news   |   podcasts   |   boards   |   blog   |   worksheets   |   photos   |   articles   |   updates   |   register   |   follow us on


Forums Closed
As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.

So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.

Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.

And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.

We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm​. You made it all happen.

There are other changes as well.

Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:

We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.

It's time to move on and move forward.

PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.

But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.

So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.

And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.

That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!

If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.

So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!

Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!

Go Back   PassPorter - A Community of Walt Disney World, Disneyland, Disney Cruise Line, and General Travel Forums > PassPorter's Walt Disney World Resort (Florida) > Feasting and Snacking: The Eateries at Walt Disney World
Register


Welcome! We're happy you've found the PassPorter Community -- the friendliest place to plan your vacation to Walt Disney World, Disney Cruise Line, Disneyland, and the world in general! You are now viewing the PassPorter Message Board Community as a guest, which gives you limited access. As our guest, feel free to browse our messages by selecting the forum you want to visit from the list below.

To post messages and ask questions, join our FREE community today and you'll get access to tools and resources not available to guests, such as our vacation countown timers, "living" avatars, private messaging system, database searches, downloads, and a special PassPorter discount code. Registration is fast, simple, and completely free. Just click the Join Our Community link.

If you think you've already joined, log in below now. If you don't remember your member name or password, please visit our Member Name and Password Recovery page. You are also welcome to contact us.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-26-2010, 07:59 PM   #1
dizneymommy
Community Rank: Traveler
 
dizneymommy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: 15 minutes from DL
Posts: 230

Post Thanks / Like
2yo on DDP

We have "technically" a party of 5 - or 6 - depending on who you ask. I am wondering if anyone knows this from a recent experience...

We obviously do not have the 2yo on the DDP because she is under 3. She will just eat from our plates, she's not picky and I will pack some extra snacks for her too. Will she count as a person when they figure the 18% for parties of 6, or will they consider us a party of 5 if we don't order anything for her. I think it's kind of unfair to make us pay the 18% minimum if they are not bringing anything additional for her that they wouldn't bring if she wasn't there, ya know? They are doing the same amount of work as they would for a party of 5. Am I crazy?
__________________
My Previous TripsDL AP since 1994, visit monthly (at least!), DLR GCH Birthday Weekend July 2002, 1st Trip to WDW @ CSR 2010
dizneymommy is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2010, 08:43 PM   #2
Katara81
Community Rank: Trekker
 
Katara81's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 1,564

Post Thanks / Like
Even infants count in your "party" - even if you don't order anything for them, they still need to be counted on the reservation. I don't know the answer for sure, but that makes it sound like they will charge you the automatic 18%. Seems like they should have told you for sure when you made you ADR's (unless you did them online). Maybe someone will have a definite answer, I'm curious to know as well.
Katara81 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2010, 08:48 PM   #3
B.M.
Community Rank: Explorer
 
B.M.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 11,903

Post Thanks / Like
I was told no, you will not count as a party of 6 regarding gratuities. We had a trip planned for when my ds would have been 2 and that is what dining reservation people told me. However, we ended up postponing the trip till he was 3, so I did not get to experience it first hand.....
__________________
B.
My Countdown Counting down to: Road Trip IV
!!!!!******!!!!!*****!!!!!!*****!!!!!!*****!!!!!** ***!!!!!*****
My Previous TripsWDW/Pop Century June 2008-- WDW/AS Movies Thanksgiving 2009-- WDW/Pop Century March 2010-- DCL/Wonder to Alaska May 2011-- WDW/Vaca Home off property Christmas 2012-- WDW/AS Music Christmas 2014
B.M. is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2010, 08:50 PM   #4
mzozzietj
 
mzozzietj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Southeastern MA
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 2,774

Post Thanks / Like
Perhaps I'm confused by the question. You will be charged 18% on the food and drinks you've ordered. Therefore if you are not ordering anything extra for the 2 year old, you wouldnt be paying any additional gratuity either?
__________________

Stacey 40, DH (Bill) 46, DD (Mary) 4
My Countdown Counting down to: Spring Break... 2016
On our way to our favorite place!
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous TripsWDW TRIPS: April 2015 (AKV/POLY), February 2015 (OKW/CBR), May 2014 (AKV), October 2013 (AKV), May 2013 (OKW), March 2013 (AKV), Dec 2012(AKL/SSR), Oct 2011 (SSR), Feb 2011 (BLT), Oct 2010 (AKV), Dec 2009 (AKV), Sept 2008 (OKW), June 2008 (AKV), March 2008 (AKL), Feb 2008 (SSR), Dec 2007 (SSR), Dec 2006 (CBR/PC), Sept 2005 (PC), Oct 2004 (AKL), Aug 2003 (Offsite), Oct 1999 (off-site), Spring 1993 (off-site), Spring 1987 (I drive), Summer 1985 (off-site), Spring 1978 (Disney Golf Resort) DL TRIPS: Dec 2006, Nov 2004, June 2002, May 2000, August 1998, Nov 1996 (My first trip to DL) - all DL stays offsite so far...
mzozzietj is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2010, 08:59 PM   #5
dizneymommy
Community Rank: Traveler
 
dizneymommy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: 15 minutes from DL
Posts: 230

Post Thanks / Like
Quote:
Originally Posted by mzozzietj View Post
Perhaps I'm confused by the question. You will be charged 18% on the food and drinks you've ordered. Therefore if you are not ordering anything extra for the 2 year old, you wouldnt be paying any additional gratuity either?
Right, but I am wondering if we will be charged the automatic 18% at all. The 2yo makes #6 but we won't order her anything so I am wondering if she would count as a person to make our party 6. If she does not count then they will not charge us the automatic 18%. Since we are not ordering her anything, the server is doing the same amount of work as if there were only 5 of us, so I don't think she should count.

The reason I am even concerned about it is this... with a 2yo and 5yo we have most of our TS at buffets so we aren't spending time waiting for food. I have worked in food service, so I've been on the other side of this, please don't flame me for it, but I think 18% tip for a server who does nothing more than bring some drinks, is just a little high. Sure, sometimes they go above and beyond, and in that case I do tip high when it is earned, but if we see our server 2 times the whole meal to get a drink refill, that's just not worth a $30 tip to me. We eat at Goofy's Kitchen (a buffet) in DL a few times a year and I have only maybe 2 times ever received the level of service that made me want to tip more than 15%, sometimes less if we really felt they were not attentive. A tip should be based on performance, not strictly on the number of people in the party - IMO.
__________________
My Previous TripsDL AP since 1994, visit monthly (at least!), DLR GCH Birthday Weekend July 2002, 1st Trip to WDW @ CSR 2010
dizneymommy is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2010, 09:29 PM   #6
TraD4Disney
Community Rank: Jetsetter
 
TraD4Disney's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: North Carolina
Concierge Level: 5
Posts: 2,090

Post Thanks / Like
I think that infants are included in the party size.

But...If you don't think the tip is warranted please call over a manager. They can adjust the tip as necessary.

It really burns me up to see people leave a restaurant unhappy because of poor service and they paid a really nice tip because of party size. If a server is excellent--give them their due. If they are bad--let the manager know and get that tip adjusted!!
__________________
Am I for Disney?
You betcha!!

DisneyTravel Planner with Magical Adventures Travel
Tracie@MagicalAdventuresTravel.com
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous Trips17 WDW vacations since 2000, 3 DCL and 1 Exp Everest 5K.
TraD4Disney is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2010, 09:30 PM   #7
Caldercup
Eileeeeeeen!™
PassPorter's Club Passholder


What's this?

PassPorter Guide

Community Rank: Legend
 
Caldercup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 28,861

Post Thanks / Like
The standard method is for Disney to count the 2 year old as part of the party. I've heard differing results as to whether the server then entered them in their Point of Sale system as a party of 5 or a party of 6 -- some have had the 2 year old put them into the auto-18% and others haven't.

If it's important to you, I'd ask the server about it when you're seated.

__________________
My Previous TripsSometime in the 70's with mom; 1990 honeymoon; 1994 trip with brother; 2002 Dec - POFQ; 2003 May - ASMovies; 2003 Oct - ASMovies; 2004 May - Pop; 2004 Sept - AKL; 2004 Nov - PORiverside; 2005 May - Grand Gathering #1; 2005 Dec - Mousefest w/Karen; 2006 March - DLR w/Karen; 2006 June - Beach Club w/Karen; 2006 Dec - Grand Gathering #2; 2007 Feb DLR Girls Trip; 2007 Dec - Appetizer trip/Mousfest w/CLT; 2008 Jun - CLT+2 meet the Koenigs; 2008 Dec - CLQ Broken Ankle Tribute; 2009 Mar - Unclenching at POFQ!; 2009 June - Sweating with Friends; 2009 Dec - Sousefest09; 2011 Dec - 3 to a bed; 2012 Jul - Even Eileen! (DLR)
Caldercup is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump














Please login or register to hide these ads -- it's free and easy!

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:23 AM.

-->

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like v3.4.0 Patch Level 1 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
(c) 1998-2017 PassPorter Travel Press/MediaMarx, Inc.
Celebrating 19 Years of Making Dreams Come True
Ad Management plugin by RedTyger