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Old 07-25-2010, 07:41 PM   #1
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Inquireing minds want to know?

Has anyone seen the horse at Magic Kingdom do there thing on Main street? By that I mean #1/#2? I told my DS, that WDW was so good with animals that they train the horse to do it outside of the Parks! She did not believe me and wanted me to ask passporter experiences!
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I don't know where they go, but I'm 100% certain that they don't go in Magic Kingdom. At least, not while they're walking down Main Street. That'd just be a disaster.

I've never used one of their carriages so I've never thought to look for myself. If it's anything like the carriages in Central Park, the horses have like a little cloth baggy positioned between their tail and the carriage so that anything that they do falls unnoticed into the bag.

That's a really interesting question though. I hope someone has the real answer because I'm curious now myself.
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I know during the Parades ... the horses that pull Cinderella's carriage have a couple of "servants" following pushing cans and carrying shovels for just such an occassion. My nephews and I always joke about how you call home to tell the Family and friends that you are in the Disney parade, but your job is to shovel up the Horse Poop.
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I have seen it happen at Disneyland on Main Street, but it's pretty rare. I would guess that between the training and the limited time that they're on Main Street before they head backstage for their break should make accidents few and far between.

And yes, I've seen the "scoopers" during the parades as well!
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There is also a "bag" that is harnessed behind the horses that catches the "stuff". Or most of it anyway. It kind of blends in to the rest of their tack, but I was always an inquisative kid and would ask what everything did.
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The bags are used a lot now. I noticed them on our last trip to Mackinaw Island. They keep the roads a little cleaner...thankfully.
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I know during the Parades ... the horses that pull Cinderella's carriage have a couple of "servants" following pushing cans and carrying shovels for just such an occassion. My nephews and I always joke about how you call home to tell the Family and friends that you are in the Disney parade, but your job is to shovel up the Horse Poop.
Yep, I've seen it happen with my own eyes... horse poop on Main Street. Like coffeechef said- they have "servants" following the trolley to clean up.
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Yes - earlier this month, the horse pulling the trolley did #2 on the street. Someone came along and cleaned it up, but it was obvious.
Horses cannot be trained to do their business on command.
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Happens all the time at DL... we watch where we step on Main St - though there is usually someone right behind to clean up
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