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Going to try to make this short.
My "bosses" are the son and daughter-in-law of the owners of the dojo I work at. They are the senseis and teach the classes. My "manager" is D., the lady who manages the front desk and SOME of the day-to-day issues. There are four of us who work the desk - Me, D, little D (D's daughter, she's 21 - this will be important later), and J.
So, the bosses have a baby who is almost 6 months old. EVERYONE seems to be ga-ga over the little bugger, and I've got to admit, I like him too.
Lauren is often asked to keep an eye on him while his parents are working, and she's happy to do so.
Here's the problems:
1. Little D often walks up to Lauren while she's holding the baby or playing with him on the floor (on a blanket, of course), and just takes the baby! Nothing said, no "Do you mind if I hold him?", nothing. Just takes him.
2. The other day, we were all out at the owner's farm. The baby was being fussy, and for some reason he was okay if Lauren had him out on the porch, rocking. So that's where she was. All alone. Little D walks up to and grabbed hold of the baby under the arms, and started pulling. And then said "If you don't let go of him, he's going to get hurt and it's going to be your fault. I'm NOT letting go."
3. This is much less of an issue, but Little D also frequently derides Lauren and yells at her about things she either isn't doing, or things that Little D's 14 year old brother and 4 year old "step-daughter" (her live in boyfriend's daughter) do.
4. Last night Lauren took adult class, which is mixed belts (sensei allows certain kids to take adult class if they want, and there are everything from beginners to black belts in there). During warm-ups they were running laps around the gym, and Lauren's activity induced asthma kicked up so she slowed down to get a breath. D ran up behind her and SHOVED her, telling her she needed to move faster because she's a kid. When we run, the slower moving people are supposed to move to the outside of the gym, and Lauren had. She wasn't in the way. Lauren did turn around and tell D that she was having an asthma attack and D left her alone after that.
My problem is: D and her family are considered almost Gods at the dojo. The bosses and the owners love her and her son, and Little D. They seem to like us and really trust Lauren with the baby. I've already talked to Little D and told her "not cool, don't EVER treat my DD like that again, and DO NOT EVER again threaten to injury that baby". However, I'm not sure I should leave it there. It bothers me that she would threaten an infant with harm if she doesn't get to hold him, and it bothers me slightly less that she'd then try to pin it on my kid.
About the baby thing: I have no clue how to go about this. I need to keep this "job" at least for the next few weeks while I look for a real job. I work in exchange for Lauren's tuition and some other perks that we really don't want to put out. Do I go to D? Do I go to the bosses (senseis and parents of the baby)? Do I just go to the owners (grandparents of the baby)? Or do I just leave it alone and go on with my life?
I'm not too worried about D shoving Lauren. I think she got the message, but I'm also tempted to talk to her about it and let her know she needs to keep her hands off my kid (unless it's sparring or something in class).
I'm open to any and all thoughts - don't hold back!
I would go to the parents of the baby. What Little D said was not called for
and more than a little strange. It sounds like a weird situation so good luck!
I don't know what I'd do; I agree with the OP, it's a *strange* situation. My first suggestion would be to address D, but it sounds like you have already done that. I think after seriously addressing her- I'd wait to see if anything else happens/gets said and go from there...
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Wow tough situation. But, that said, you cannot let a 21 year old get away with brattiness. Next time something happens deal with the situation immediately before D has a chance to lie. If it's about the baby, tell the parents asap. If she reprimands your daughter or interferes with business in any way tell the owners. And, God forbid, pushes your child again (obviously not sparring) tell Little D that you will call the authorities for assault. 21 year olds know better.
Has Little D ever been told "No"? Sounds like a spoilt brat - at 21 she should know better. Jealousy is a sin...could she feel threatened by Lauren's ability?
I guess I'm swaying towards telling the baby's parents and waiting until you have another job but really where will Lauren train if you leave the dojo? Saying something that may come back to interfere with the way Lauren is treated is counter productive but not saying something means little D gets away with it.
Speak your mind and tell the baby's parents and let them know your fears for backlash against you/DD. Good luck.
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I agree that I would talk to the baby's parents. Little D seems jealous, but she is old enough to know better and threatening to harm a child is uncalled for. ixie
Sorry, no way no how does an adult lay hands on my kid & get away with it. That at the VERY least needs to get reported to the bosses-ALL of them. Make it clear that your kid has been HIT, not accidently, not a spar issue, but shoved forcefully, by someone THEY are paying. Nuh uh, no way. I would also explain that the 21 yr old is harrassing Lauren where the baby is concerned, & let them know it makes her uncomfortable with the baby-should an injury occur because of it.
Unless I'm missing something, what is "Little D" to this baby? If she's not a relative, I think she has no business walking up and taking him from Lauren when it's Lauren who is suppose to be watching him. Just my two cents and I think I'd let the parents know. They may not realize it's happening and there might be a reason why Lauren has been asked to watch him over "Little D" making her jealous.
Unless I'm missing something, what is "Little D" to this baby? If she's not a relative, I think she has no business walking up and taking him from Lauren when it's Lauren who is suppose to be watching him. Just my two cents and I think I'd let the parents know. They may not realize it's happening and there might be a reason why Lauren has been asked to watch him over "Little D" making her jealous.
Little D is not related to the family at all. BUT - Little D and D (her mom) and J (the other lady that works there) all refer to him as "My little man" or "My little guy". Makes me uncomfortable.
There is no choosing people over others, Lauren and I just happen to get to the dojo earlier than most other people. The parents don't mind him being handed around from person to person. I take my fair share holding him, but usually only when no-one else is there - and I'd never walk up to anyone and just take him away. D and Little D take him from his parents all of the time!
I thought you had quit this job. I'm sorry to hear you're still putting up with those ungrateful people.
Yeah, I want to quit. I'm working on quitting, but we decided me looking for a new job in the middle of the school year wasn't going to work, so that's what I'm doing with zeal and fervor next week.
Has Little D ever been told "No"? Sounds like a spoilt brat - at 21 she should know better. Jealousy is a sin...could she feel threatened by Lauren's ability?
I guess I'm swaying towards telling the baby's parents and waiting until you have another job but really where will Lauren train if you leave the dojo? Saying something that may come back to interfere with the way Lauren is treated is counter productive but not saying something means little D gets away with it.
Speak your mind and tell the baby's parents and let them know your fears for backlash against you/DD. Good luck.
You hit the nail on the head!! I don't think any of their kids were ever told no or told they couldn't do something. Little D has actually stood in the dojo and told her mother to demand that Little D's boyfriend do something she wants - even when his reason for saying no makes sense (you don't go on a week long vacation to Key West when you aren't working a paying job and your boyfriend is out of a job because of an injury - her mom told him to take her.)
Spoiled little b!$%&. One day, she'll be knocked on her butt, however, I don't think you'll be the one to do it.
I would go to the baby's parents and explain that something rather strange occurred while Lauren was watching the baby and it is concerning to both you and her. Go on to say, that if they would like Lauren to continue watching the baby, it should be made clear to others that Lauren is responsible and should not have any interference. If they choose not to have Lauren babysit, then so be it.
If it isn't clear, I would find out what Lauren's resposibility is when she's watching this baby. If Little D comes and takes the baby is he HER responsibilty, or is Lauren still on the hook if Little D gets tired of holding him? If not, I'd let Little D take him and then make myself scarce so when she tires of her doll, you're nowhere to be found. Then if she complains to the parents you can explain your side of the story.
I would find some way to video tape this so that there is proof of what she does so that she could not lie her way out of trouble. Thats what I would do.
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