As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Welcome! We're happy you've found the PassPorter Community -- the friendliest place to plan your vacation to Walt Disney World, Disney Cruise Line, Disneyland, and the world in general! You are now viewing the PassPorter Message Board Community as a guest, which gives you limited access. As our guest, feel free to browse our messages by selecting the forum you want to visit from the list below.
To post messages and ask questions, join our FREE community today and you'll get access to tools and resources not available to guests, such as our vacation countown timers, "living" avatars, private messaging system, database searches, downloads, and a special PassPorter discount code. Registration is fast, simple, and completely free. Just click the Join Our Community link.
If you think you've already joined, log in below now. If you don't remember your member name or password, please visit our Member Name and Password Recovery page. You are also welcome to contact us.
We have an offer for 20% off the dining plan and I'm wondering what everyone thinks about this deal. We've never done the dining plan before and just not sure if it's a good deal, but w/20% off I'm curious now. It is just my husband and me and this will be our 7th trip. We do have ADR for Crystal Palace dinner, Fantasmic package at Hollywood and Vine and The Garden Grill.
We love the dining plan. Everything is paid for before you go so you don't have to worry about money for eatting. Except for tips. You can order anything you want on the menu. We always come out ahead. With 20% off it sounds like a good deal to me. You do have to allow about 2 hours for each table service. Do you want to spend park time eatting? There are several things to consider. I am sure others will come along and give you there thoughts.
That sounds like a good deal. I've gone both with and without the dining plan and these are the pros and cons of my experiences. The biggest pro is having your meals prepaid and not having to worry about prices in the restaurant. If you manage your credits well, you will probably save some money. As for cons....it is a lot of food (would you really have dessert with every meal, including counter service?) The other con is being tied down to ADRs and the pressure to get your money's worth. For example, one day after touring the parks, your group may be tired and want to linger at the hotel, making getting to your dinner ressie on time difficult. Or you oversleep and miss your breakfast ADR. If you have the DDP, then you have lost $ (the meal is paid for, after all) and you have to get another ADR so you can recoup your loses. If you're paying OOP, no biggie. Pick up something at the food court. One more pro/con -the cost for the dining plan for children under 9 is very small and easily pays for itself and more, especially if you are planning on any character meals. The negative side of this is that children under 9 have to order from the children's menus and we found them to be lacking, particularly at the counter service locations. Hope this helps you make a decision.
With the DDP, we spend about as much on food as if we had just paid on our own. The difference is that if we were paying out of pocket per meal, we would be much more likely to choose yet-another-chicken-entree, share entrees, and split one dessert between the four of us (and only twice on the whole trip). With the DDP, we can order filet mignon and steak for every meal. We can have dessert for every meal. (My personal goal is to try every version of creme brulee offered at WDW!) If we find that we are not hungry for dessert or some other part of a meal right then, we find a way to take it with us and enjoy it later. (Not really "doggie bags", but we might have them box up dessert with plastic forks, so we can eat it as we wait for Fantasmic to begin, or we might have the kids choose carrot sticks and ranch for their side, and stick it in the backpack for a snack later.)
__________________
DD and DS, May 2008
"I am purple today; Bright and happy like a butterfly in the air." -Kira Willey
I love the Dining Plan. To me it is peace of mind when I am there not to worry how much we are spending in restaurants. We like to eat table services for dinner and it can be very pricey if you pay out of pocket. I always do the math after vacation and we have always saved a bundle using the plan. You are very lucky to have gotten a promo code for 20% off the Dining Plan. I've never heard of a code for that.
This gives us a lot to talk/think about. One biggie....We don't always want a lot to eat every day. It sounds like a lot of food and I'm just not sure if that's what we want. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. We already have 3 ADR and I'm not sure that I want eight of them. I like not having everything so scheduled.
The dinign plan is priced to be roughly break-even on costs, for typical people and what they typically order. With careful planning, you can actually leverage those credits, and get meals that would have costyou a lot more out-of-pocket than the plan did.
The biggest benefit IMO, though, is ... peace of mind. You know that your meals, or at least most of them (two a day), are paid for before you even check in. There's no risk of a check bouncing, and leaving you without the money to even pay for food for a few days. There's no cash or travellers' checks to lose. There's no CC to misplace (forcing you to cancel that CC# and await a replacement).
"Paid in Full" is just such a wonderful sensation all it's own, that I really cannot understate it's value.
...
Now, if you're worried about amount? Stick with the Basic plan, or even the Quick Service plan if you'r enot much for sit-down dining.
But even if you go whole-hog on the Deluxe ... remember that just because you could have the appetiser and dessert, per person ... doesn't mean you must, nor even that you neccessarily should. Just order what you're hungry for, and enjoy knowing that you won't ever leave a meal "still hungry" unless you choose to, for whatever reason.
We love the dining plan. Like others we have done both and I really enjoy not having to think about paying for a single meal. You do have to take care of tipping, but you can just charge it to your Key to the world card and pay for them at the end of your trip, or just bring some smaller bills.
At 20% off; I'd go for it. With the discount, it would be a good time to try it yourself and see how you like it! I think for the most part, the DP ='s what you would spend anyway- not so much a savings as a convenience. Now depending on individual families eating styles; this could tip it either way. Some families do the math and find they come out a little cheaper w/out the plan, since they would normally order differently. Some families, save quite a bit if they are big eaters. But, with 20% off; I think it would be a savings with most families/eating styles. I'd go for it!
What I love about the dining plan is that everything is paid for up front so at meal time we don't have to worry about how much an entree costs and that type of thing. I think it's a particularly wonderful value for kids and especially on trips when we plan to do lots of character meals.
What I don't like about the dining plan is that it requires a little more planning in order to make sure all credits are used. Once on site if we don't feel like keeping a certain reservation there's a chance of losing credits if we can't replace it with another ADR. I also think it's too much dessert (one with the CS meal and one with the TS meal). I wouldn't eat that much dessert normally and I wish you could sub an appetizer for dessert at the TS meal, but I know that's not allowed. Of course turning down dessert is always an option but there's often that feeling of, "welllll...I paid for it!"
I agree with everyone else......the deal is good, the peace of mind of having it all paid for and that I can go for that great steak instead of a sandwich is worth every penny, we always come out ahead when I crunch the ddp vs oop, we do the deluxe dp we are big appetizer eaters, take dessert to go and most dinners are two credit places that way we only eat twice a day, the ADR at noonish is always a welcome break from the heat and activity, if you are using the basic that is average of 1 cs and 1 ts a day (although you can use them however you want) and appetizers are not included so that is not an overabundance of food for us when we are active all day and night, anyway IMHO I say go for it we do....
__________________
Shari
Small acts of kindness can change lives
My 3 first timers headed for WDW...sshhhh
Last edited by Ceara's mawmaw; 01-12-2010 at 09:14 AM..
Reason: add on
We definitely came out ahead as we prefer the upscale places.
A number of otherwise quite pricey restaurants such as Marrakesh in EPCOT are only 1 credit per person. We ate very well indeed at Marrakesh and took dessert back to the resort. If I recall correctly, Le Cellier was only 1 credit, too, and it was very tasty.
Keep in mind that you can use 2 credits per person for room service, regular food or pizza, so if you're feeling wornout or the weather is yicky, room service can be a big help. Our last day at WDW was this past Saturday when the weather was so horribly cold we didn't leave the resort all day. We'd skimped on breakfast often enough that we could do both lunch and dinner from room service. It was wonderful!
Ooops! Editing to add the cons. We both ate far too much fattening food. I agree that having to get dessert for both lunch and dinner even if you take it to go is too much. You can pick only one each from appetizers, entrees and desserts on the Deluxe, what we had. Many's the time I'd have preferred two appetizers, maybe shrimp cocktail with a small salad, and dessert but no can do.
By the time we got to the aforementioned room service dinner, we each declined dessert...we were desserted out and then some which is very rare for us as we both love sweets.
__________________
“People say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing every day.” —Winnie-the-Pooh
Last edited by Her Dotness; 01-13-2010 at 11:08 AM..
Keep in mind that you can use 2 credits per person for room service, regular food or pizza, so if you're feeling wornout or the weather is yicky, room service can be a big help. Our last day at WDW was this past Saturday when the weather was so horribly cold we didn't leave the resort all day. We'd skimped on breakfast often enough that we could do both lunch and dinner from room service. It was wonderful!
This is a good strategy if you miss a meal and you have the deluxe plan. If you have the Basic Plan, this would not be a good way to manage credits for a missed ADR, IMHO.
If you really don't want a sit down meal every day and would rather stick to 3 or 4 ADRs, I personally wouldn't go for a plan with TS options. If the 20% code also includes the QS plan, that might be worth it. I would do the math.