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Old 04-29-2008, 03:37 PM   #1
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When will DCL do another Med cruise?

I've been looking for this info everyhere I could think of and honestly cannot find it. Has Disney anounced any plans on returning to the Med/Europe within the next few years? I'd love to go in 2010. Or will they be waiting for their new ships (2011)?
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Will they do another Med cruise? That remains to be seen!

They haven't released itinerary information past 2009 so we're waiting to hear what they'll be doing after that.

The new ships will be based in Port Canaveral for at least 2011 and 2012 but we don't know their itineraries.

There are many possibilities - the Med, Alaska, Hawaii... who knows!
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To clarify, when Disney promised to "base" their new ships in Port Canaveral for 2011/2012, I really don't think that means they can't reposition the ships a couple of months for special itineraries. The real issue was whether Disney would permanently home port the ships elsewhere (like Tampa, where DCL management made an uncharacteristically public visit to "consider" placing their ships there). Since Disney wanted Port Canaveral to pay for an expansion of the terminal and parking facilities, the Port Canaveral authorities needed some assurance that it'd be worth their while. Retaining Port Canaveral as the regular home base is certainly enough to save face. If they insisted that they could only sail from Port Canaveral during that time, it probably would have been a deal breaker with Disney.

Port Canaveral will almost undoubtedly be losing one of the DCL ships to California. Since the Panama Canal expansion won't be completed before the end of 2012, Disney could safely promise the new ships would stay in Port Canaveral during that time. California will initially get the Magic or Wonder. Once the canal is finished, though... if West Coast demand grows high enough, I wouldn't be surpised to see one of the new ships moved there in 2013, 2014, or sometime after that.

I think DCL isn't likely to return to the Mediterranean soon, at least until (or unless) the exchange rate between the dollar and euro improves (for Americans). With the cost of airfare between the US and Europe as high as it is, DCL has to be reasonably confident that it can fill any European-based ship with Europeans, because too few US citizens are likely to go. And with the new ships half again as large as the Magic and Wonder, they have to be doubly-confident about European-based demand.
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Ok, thanks Lynn. I didn't know if there was really no information out there or if I was just missing something. I'm crossing my fingers that they do another Med run- I'm not interested in Hawaii (live here). I would do an Alaska cruise in a heartbeat though.
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I can see the point about the exchange rate - and trust me, I don't want that to change any time soon - but I wouldn't be surprised to see another Med cruise summer itinerary in the future sometime. The opening of the DCL London office is an interesting move and we were hearing very positive things about future Med cruises from Disney executives when we did the Med cruise last year. I could see them doing something similar, as it's limited number of cruises to fill. I hope so, as I'd love to do it again.
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Wow- thanks for the additional details Dave and Cheryl. I'll just keep waiting to hear more from here and Disney I guess. I certainly hope they go back- we're going to Spain in 2010 whether they do or not though!
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I've heard that the US based cruise lines have been having a hard time filling their Med cruises with Europeans. Europeans and Americans have two totally different styles of holiday making/vacationing (within the limits of generalities). Pulmantur has had good success selling to Europe, as has MSC. Costa has, to a lesser extent. But CCL, RCI, Celebrity, Princess and HAL have all had trouble. I guess this is because they are perceived as being "American" and not "suitable" for European consumption (???) Of course, this is exactly what happened to EuroDisneyland when it first opened. And Disney imposing its standards of attire and attitude to a workforce used to something different.

My main concern is that what looked like a good deal last year was because it was priced in 2006. This year doesn't look nearly as good for Americans. And the price will be essentially the same for Europeans because it's all priced in euros to begin with. In fact, the euro and pound are so bleedin' strong that it's almost cheaper to fly into Miami and cruise the Caribbean. If not for that obscene airfare.

I honestly don't see DCL going back to the Med any time soon. But I also said that OWRS and IRL wouldn't merge and that Ferrari would collapse after Schumacher retired.
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