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I have ADRs for both of these restaurants during our Easter trip but we're only going to one not both. We've eaten at both in the past although Tutto Italia was Alfredo's at the time, but this time we're traveling with our friends. We'll be 9 altogether: 4 adults and 5 "kids" ranging in age from 20 to 7. Where would you eat and why?
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Out of the two, and based on our experience last month, I'd go for Tutto Italia, simply because the food there was excellent. The food at Le Cellier was good, but just not in the same league. We thought Tutto Italia was a big improvement on Alfredo's.
After what I've heard, I'd steer clear of Le Cellier for a while!
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DD11 and DD21 adored Le Cellier in Nov/Dec; definitely over Tutta Italia in all of our opinions. Service was much better at Le Cellier, they tried to (actually did) talk us into things we really didn't want at Tutta... it wasn't a great experience, and the food was preferred at Le Cellier by all 4 of us!
I don't know if it matters to you (or if you are on the DDP) but I heard that TI was OBSCENELY expensive. Since I am not a big fan of Italian to begin with, that turned me off. And I did love LC when we went there in September.
We were on the DDP and ate at Tutto Italia. It was VERY expensive, we were amazed it was a 1 TS credit meal, it cost nearly as much as our 2 TS credit meal at Narcoosee's. However, we LOVED the meal at TI. We tried Le Cellier, but were just not as impressed as we expected to be. It is very crowded in there. The tables at TI were spaced further apart, our server was a joy, and we had a leisurely and delicious meal.
Another selling point for Tutto Italia is the option to eat "family style." We were able to get several dishes to share. There was a ton of food and it was all good. We will definitely return and I would recommend it. My younger sons enjoyed the kids' menu as well.
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Thank you for all your input and feedback! I know that when I first took a look at Tutto's new menu, I was surprised by the cost of $59 for adults - even including appetizer/desserts (which we don't always order). However, there appears to be pasta and other meat choices that you can buy a la carte - and those seem to be on the same price level as Le Cellier.
I'm still not sure. I'm going to print out the menus and ask our friends to take a look and see what they think. Thanks again!!
We ate at TI last month - very nice great atmosphere. We also ate at LC twice. It is LC everytime for us!
I`ve just posted some pics of TI on my trip report, have a look. We were on the dining plan otherwise that meal would have cost a fortune.
I would also say, since you are going with friends, pick the one that you feel "safer" at. By that I mean the one that they might enjoy more or that you know you will get the best service and the best food. Even though I know it could happen anywhere, I dislike the thought of talking up a place to people and then having it be a terrible experience.
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I have looked at the menu for TI and was not impressed, especially considering the cost. Also, only you know how adventurous the kids are when it comes to food. My daughter would absolutely hate this place. With Le Cellier, we know we will enjoy a nice steak and some wonderful Cheese Soup. My husband can have his salmon if he chooses and we're all satisfied.
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We have one for LC as well, I'll be sure to compare.
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