How to explain to an Asperger's kid that it might be OK to tell a little lie? - PassPorter - A Community of Walt Disney World, Disneyland, Disney Cruise Line, and General Travel Forums
PassPorter.com
Award-winning travel guidebooks

   guidebooks   |   news   |   podcasts   |   boards   |   blog   |   worksheets   |   photos   |   articles   |   updates   |   register   |   follow us on


Forums Closed
As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.

So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.

Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.

And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.

We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm​. You made it all happen.

There are other changes as well.

Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:

We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.

It's time to move on and move forward.

PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.

But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.

So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.

And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.

That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!

If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.

So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!

Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!

Go Back   PassPorter - A Community of Walt Disney World, Disneyland, Disney Cruise Line, and General Travel Forums > PassPorter Villa: Sharing the Fun Together > The Sunroom: Fun, Games, and Chat
Register


Welcome! We're happy you've found the PassPorter Community -- the friendliest place to plan your vacation to Walt Disney World, Disney Cruise Line, Disneyland, and the world in general! You are now viewing the PassPorter Message Board Community as a guest, which gives you limited access. As our guest, feel free to browse our messages by selecting the forum you want to visit from the list below.

To post messages and ask questions, join our FREE community today and you'll get access to tools and resources not available to guests, such as our vacation countown timers, "living" avatars, private messaging system, database searches, downloads, and a special PassPorter discount code. Registration is fast, simple, and completely free. Just click the Join Our Community link.

If you think you've already joined, log in below now. If you don't remember your member name or password, please visit our Member Name and Password Recovery page. You are also welcome to contact us.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-27-2007, 07:22 PM   #1
graygables
Community Rank: Explorer
 
graygables's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Near a Tower of Terror at the moment...
Posts: 13,884

Post Thanks / Like
Question How to explain to an Asperger's kid that it might be OK to tell a little lie?

11yo has Asperger's and is, ummm, shall we say, "frank". She has learned to keep her mouth shut most of the time, but there are instances when she gets in a position that she HAS to speak up. Case in point, last night's dance class. 11yo came down and said, "I don't like B's dance, it's easy and not that great." My response: "OK, but do NOT tell B that, you know she'll have a melt down". "Yeah, I know". On the way home, what's the first thing B asks? "Hey, S, how did you like my dance?" Cricket, cricket, cricket. "S?" "*S* ANSWER ME!" Finally I told S to answer her and she'd better answer carefully, so S says, "I didn't like it." Oh my heavens, all heck broke loose. After I reminded S that I had already warned her NOT to say something that would hurt B's feelings, she says, "What am I supposed to do, LIE?" I'm thinking, well yeah. I tried to explain that you say it in a way that doesn't hurt the other person, like, "It was fine" or "OK" or even just an "mmmmmm", but she doesn't get it. Any strategies? I don't want her to think it's OK to lie, but at the same time, this is a social nuance that is VERY difficult to grasp.

coming up next on Parenting 411: how to get a sensitive kid to just GET OVER IT???
__________________
Link to my home building journey in photos: http://s155.photobucket.com/albums/s...Villa%20Bella/
The Oasis at Villa Bella: http://s155.photobucket.com/user/gra...20Bella?page=1

The views and opinions expressed on this post are mine and do not necessarily represent or reflect those of The Walt Disney Company and Affiliated Companies
graygables is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2007, 08:35 PM   #2
Teresa
Community Rank: Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indiana , USA
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 26,527

Post Thanks / Like
Sounds like a tough spot, Dawn. I guess the way I'd handle (and have with my kids who get severly punished for lying, so they really do not lie) is to tell her that she should say something like:
"Well, I don't really like it, but it looked like you are really enjoying yourself, and I'm glad you are happy!"
Teresa is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2007, 08:45 PM   #3
ripkensnana
Community Rank: Scout
 
ripkensnana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Lansing, Michigan
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 4,890

Post Thanks / Like
When faced with telling someone that I didn't really like their whatever...I've come up with...."It was interesting...." Which is usually the truth, in most cases. I just don't say what made it interesting....which might be something akin to a train wreck. You don't really want to look, but you just can't help it.....
__________________
CAROL





My PassPorter Bookshelf <table width=100% height=75 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 border=0><tr><td width=86 style='background-image: url(http://www.passporter.com/concierge/ticker/countdown4266-1656.png); background-repeat: no-repeat;'><a href='http://www.passporterboards.com/concierge/curtis-does-disney-again-trip1656.html' border=0><img src='http://www.passporter.com/forums/club/images/bookshelf/transparent.png' height=75 width=86 border=0></a></td><td align=left style='background-image: url(http://www.passporter.com/forums/club/images/bookshelf/shelf4266.png); background-repeat: no-repeat;'><a href='http://www.passporterboards.com/forums/club/bookshelf.php?member=4266&name=ripkensnana' border=0><img src='http://www.passporter.com/forums/club/images/bookshelf/transparent.png' height=75 width=200 border=0></a></td></tr></table>
My Previous TripsWDW Dec '89, July '02, March 03, March 04, WDW & Wonder Dec '04, WDW Feb '05, July '05, Dec '05, WDW & Wonder Dec '06, WDW Dec '07, WDW May '08
ripkensnana is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2007, 10:21 PM   #4
DrDolphin
Living Seas wannabe
PassPorter's Club Passholder


What's this?

PassPorter Guide

Community Rank:
Legend Extraordinaire
 
DrDolphin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 31,940

Post Thanks / Like
Another fan of the "interesting" answer. I use it all the time....
__________________
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous Trips60+ WDW trips - most recent January 2014 - SSR; 2 DL/DCA - most recent Feb 2007 - DLH; 9 DCL - most recent July 2014 - Disney Fantasy
DrDolphin is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2007, 11:42 PM   #5
mcc0313
Community Rank: Legend
 
mcc0313's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New York
Concierge Level: 2
Posts: 16,622

Post Thanks / Like
My little one is very well let's say "just say what she means" type of girl...I have tried to explain to her that sometimes telling the truth can hurt someone's feelings...so DD tells me but mommy lying is bad...so I explained to her that if you don't like something talk about something else...she did not understand at first so I gave her this example...

If her friend says "Do you like my dress?"

If she doesn't like it don't say "No it's an ugly dress" instead tell her "You look very pretty"...

Ok not the most direct but the girl might have still looked pretty even if she was in an ugly dress...
__________________
Meg

My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous TripsBWV & POLY 8/15, OKW 2/15, BWI 11/14, AKV & BCV 8/14, CSR 10/13, OKW & AKV 8/13, AKV & BLT 7/12, AKV & BWV 8/11, BCV 2/11, POR & BWV 8/10, POR 8/09, POR 12/08, ASMo 6/08, POR 5/06, WDW 10/83
mcc0313 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2007, 11:52 PM   #6
snoozin
Community Rank: Explorer
 
snoozin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: in a Teeny Town, Oregon
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 7,714

Post Thanks / Like
It's always important to teach kids to share appropriately their feelings about something; she could have said "I liked that xxx move you had in your dance" or similar. That way she's not lying, but she is finding something she did like about it. It's what I try to practice as well.
__________________

My Countdown Counting down to: Childless in WDW ... again! December 2015
My PassPorter Bookshelf <table width=100% height=75 border=0><tr><td style='background-image: url(http://www.passporter.com/forums/club/images/bookshelf/shelf15288.png); background-repeat: no-repeat;'><a href='http://www.passporterboards.com/forums/club/bookshelf.php?member=15288&name=snoozin' border=0><img src='http://www.passporter.com/forums/club/images/bookshelf/transparent.png' height=75 width=100% border=0></a></td></tr></table>
My Previous TripsVisited DL MANY times from 1963 to 1997 until we moved out of SoCal (boohoo); WDW 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999 (twice), 2000, 2001 (twice), 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 3/24-28/2009, 2010, DH solo 12/2010, Oct AND Nov 2011, 2012, 2013, Dec 2014, and... wait for it... Dec 4, 2015!
snoozin is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2007, 12:47 AM   #7
joyjoy
Community Rank: Trailblazer
 
joyjoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Houston
Posts: 5,162

Post Thanks / Like
Tricky one, Asperger's or not. In general, kids are brutally honest with each other, especially siblings. It's tough if one of them is more sensitive. I think it's a thing you learn with time and experience, how to neatly dodge a loaded question. I don't think I'd expect an 11 year old to have the finesse to find something nice to say under that kind of pressure. I think she did just fine. Yeah, the tougher question is how to get the other one to not be so sensitive. Good luck.

P.S. I had a mean sister.
__________________
melanie

My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous Trips1993- Offsite; 1995- ASMu; 1999- Offsite; 2000- CSR; 2000- DxL; 2002-ASMu; 2003- AKL; 2005- POR; 2007- PC
joyjoy is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2007, 09:16 AM   #8
wheatenwalker
Community Rank: Explorer
 
wheatenwalker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 9,619

Post Thanks / Like
I tried to get my kids ( and now my staff) to always add some good news too- like' I didnt love the dance but you looked great doing it'.
wheatenwalker is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2007, 10:10 AM   #9
Happymommy
Community Rank: Explorer
 
Happymommy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 8,784

Post Thanks / Like
I don't know--- we had this problem with Aidan (also has aspergers. We just kept telling him that you never say something that will hurt someone's feelings or make them feel bad. And we kept asking him how he would feel if we said (I can't remember the example) to him, and he kept saying that he'd feel bad--- he seems to understand. Last year he told his friend that his hair looked like "pie" and we had to keep telling him how that hurt the boy's feelings (don't know why his hair looks like pie)--- he wasn't trying to be mean. I don't know--- I feel like we're always reinforcing sometimes he seems to get it and then he'll say something again...
__________________
Dina

My Countdown Counting down to: 20th Anniversary Celebration in Walt Disney World
see ya real soon
My Previous Trips'75,'76,'80,'85,'87 Offsite * 8/89 Ft. Wilderness * 6/91 Caribbean Beach * 9/04 Wilderness Lodge * 1/05 Caribbean Beach * 5/05 Caribbean Beach * 1/06 Caribbean Beach * 8/06 ASMovies * 1/07 Old Key West * 8/07 POFQ * 6/08 Animal Kingdom Villas - Jambo *5/09 Saratoga Springs * 9/11 Saratoga Springs * 8/12 Animal Kingdom Villas - Jambo * 10/13 Saratoga Springs * 1/16 Saratoga Springs * 7/17 Beach Club Villas * 4/18 Boardwalk Villas * 10/18 Bay Lake Tower
Happymommy is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2007, 04:39 PM   #10
theJordans
Community Rank: Trekker
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: The Lake District UK
Posts: 1,224

Post Thanks / Like
My sister has a great response when asked her opinion on something she doesn`t like - "its alright if you like that sort of thing" Works in many situations and it isn`t a lie!
__________________
Julie.
My Countdown Counting down to: Getting away from the cold
theJordans is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2007, 10:25 PM   #11
Chrissi
Community Rank: Legend
 
Chrissi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Slate Belt, PA
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 15,346

Post Thanks / Like
She did the right thing by telling the truth. However, there's nothing wrong with teaching her to soften the honest truth by following it up with a compliment.

"I didn't really like it, but you looked like you were enjoying yourself and that's good."

As to the one pressing for answers - she needs to learn not to fish for compliments. Instead of the compliment she was anticipating, she may get answers she doesn't want to hear.
__________________
Chrissi

My Previous Trips::Wildwood, NJ: June 2007:: ::Knoebels: July 2003, June 2004, August 2005, August 2006, August 2007, August 2008, August 2009, August 2010:: ::WDW: 1999 (Honeymoon):: ::DL: 1983 (age 4!)::
Chrissi is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump














Please login or register to hide these ads -- it's free and easy!

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:05 AM.

-->

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like v3.4.0 Patch Level 1 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
(c) 1998-2017 PassPorter Travel Press/MediaMarx, Inc.
Celebrating 19 Years of Making Dreams Come True
Ad Management plugin by RedTyger