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Old 09-07-2007, 11:14 AM   #1
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Feeling guilty! (Vent)

My DH and I are going in less than three weeks to Epcot for a long weekend (Thu-Sun) to the Food and Wine Festival. September is an INSANE month for us (as it is for most of us with kids starting school). I run a music teaching studio which opened this week for the new school year. I am overwhelmed with paperwork; phone calls; etc., and on top of that both kids are taking a challenging course load with lots of extra-curricular activities this year. Every year at this time the anxiety is overwhelming and planning this trip has helped me wade through it with something to look forward to. Until today I have not felt a twinge of guilt, but I just checked my DS's grades on the school website and I see he is struggling in a few of his classes already. He is a straight A student and was moved into Gifted and Talented classes this year, which is obviously going to be an adjustment. The homework load has tripled this year. I'm wondering if I should cancel my trip..... : - ( Any mommies out there with thoughts on this? What would you do?
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Old 09-07-2007, 11:39 AM   #2
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No! Dont penalize the rest of your family for it.

But I would talk to him, and his teachers and find out what the root issue is.

How old/grade?

We struggled with this issue last year with my DS(13), not with doing the work, but turning it in! That was 7th grade and a BIG adjustment with having multiple teachers and be-bopping from class to class. Found out a big portion of it was peer pressure (being studious just isnt "COOL" these days ).
Along with that he was also in cross country and some other clubs. Well, those were the first to go as a consequence, and as more priviledges were lost, I noticed a change. It took losing all extra curricular activities, his stereo, TV, gaming systems, ability to watch TV, and recreational reading (hes a HUGE reader and rips through a large book in a couple days).

Well having no personal freedom, extra chores, us reviewing every shred of homework, and communicating with his teachers got his attention. It took less than a week of tight scrutiny for him to change his ways, and as a result he improved. The kicker was the consequence of no birthday celebration last year when he entered the realm of a teenager.

I wasnt spoken to for two weeks, but Im okay with that because it was an attention getter and was the proverbial 2x4 betwen the eyes to let him know how serious I was.

Perhaps another thing in your case that could be done is scale back the activities he has until he can get his homework load under control and make it manageable.


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Funny enough he is in seventh grade! However middle school started for him last year, so he is used to the multiple classes and teachers. I checked the site again and one of the classes shows a missing assignment (hmmmm...this is a first), and he completely forgot to report to a sectional in Band (at 7 a.m. which I was not told about) for which he got a 0. So I think you're right. It is a question of responsibility. He just got a wii system, so I think that will be the first to go until he can find a way to remember. As far as not caring about his grades, in this case this is a kid who does. The social life is picking up, however and he has other things on his mind. My DD is a junior in HS so I know she can help him with homework on the two nights we're gone...just that she has so much of her own and she gets home so late because of marching band practice. My parents are keeping them and I think except for the Algebra they can help him. Still thinking about this, but you're right. I should not penalize my DH and myself. Thanks!
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Keith hit it pretty well on the head. But I don't believe you should take away your trip because of everything that's going on. I'm not sure not going will really change your DS's situation, Debbie.

I would sit down with DS and see what his take is on why he's struggling. And then ask him what you can do to help him be more successful. Let him think about it, if he needs to, for an hour, then sit down again and work out details, whether it be cutting back on extra-curricular things, or just sitting down with him while he does his homework and might have questions he doesn't feel like he should have to be asking but needs to. (I do that with DD, I sit and do work at the table while she's doing HW, and that way if I see she appears stuck, I can subtlely help without appearing to be a hovering mom.)
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No sweat. I see it a lot, as I am a youth bowling coach as well.
I see this fairly frequently with the kids in the 12-14 range. They are dealing with so much that it becomes overwhelming and once they hit overload, they typically dont realize it.

Thats where we (support system) comes in. Best thing you could do is to email all of his teachers, couselors, coaches, directors, etc and express your concerns for his progress. Typically, you can all work towards the common goal of making him a better student, musician, person, etc. Since you cant see him at every moment of the day, it is vital that they become your eyes and ears at school just like you are theirs at home.
I think of it as a partnership and even today, I have weekly status emails with his teachers and it seems to help.

That is one of the biggest issues with teens today, too many kids dont get that kind of support and are left to their own devices. That is when they all get together and become mutinous and determine that school just isnt cool and peer pressure gets laid on fairly thick; which turns the good kids onto the wrong path.

You sound like you have things well in hand and under control. I am confident you'll do well, and he will turn things around, especially losing the Wii. My son hated me for it at the time, but thanked me later and admitted it was a distraction.

I was in marching band as well, so I know how that goes. Marched drum corps for two seasons as well (BEST thing I could have ever done! Learned valuable lessons). Good luck to your DS & D.

Enjoy your trip and have a good time, the kiddos are in good hands with the folks and the reality is that it's only 4 days. Not like it's the end of the world.
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Oh, forgot something....

Not sure which text he is using but the program my DS utilizes at school has an online tutoring assistance, straight from the text. It is great!


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NO! Don't give up your trip! How would that help?

Tell your son you saw his grades. Ask him if he needs help. Urge him to stay after school and make up work. He wouldn't be in GT unless they felt he could handle the work.

And if he doesn't start improving, take away the wii until he does! We went through something similar in our house: we had to restrict and eventually eliminate Internet use from our house, as DD could not resist it and was not getting school work completed.
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My daughter also is in 7th this year we went from a small private school (we were there 9 yrs 3yo 2 6th grade) and now we are still at private but way way different 7th is a struggle for most kids feelings emotions work it can all be too much
dont cancel talk with him it is a new world in 7th


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I don't think I would give up my trip. I think as long as you stay involved (and it sounds like you are) and your son is aware of your involvement and concern and want for him to do well, things will improve.
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Thank you so much to everyone for your great advice and encouragement. I did e-mail the teachers today, some whom I already know because my DD was at this school first. Heard back from every one of them and they are all going to work with me to help DS have a successful year. I heard many positive comments about my son (which made me feel GREAT!) and we are calling a family meeting tomorrow.

Keith, I am especially glad to see that there are fathers who have a clue about what is going on with their kids in their daily lives. My DH is a wonderful support with their band and sports activities, but the academics have always been completely up to me.(okay, except for Pre-Calc!) I think I will send DH to the orientation meetings this year!

So....we're off to Epcot in 20 days! Yea!!!! I feel better now. Thanks again!
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No problem.

Have a GREAT trip!

My DS (Kyren) is mini-me to a T.

I typically know what he is going to do before he does (since I already did it), and it is important to me that he puts forth the effort and makes school into college easier than I did.

I do hear you though, and understand your point, and thank you.
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I went through this with BOTH boys in the 7th Grade. Even though both of them started middle school in 6th grade. My oldest has always struggled with grades. Until 7th grade it was actually an honest struggle. 7th grade it was not turning in assignments. He now is a pretty good student as a senior. My youngest has always had straight A's. Until 7th grade and he ceased to turn in assignments. He is now back to A's and B's.
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