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Old 10-19-2003, 11:23 PM   #1
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We have decided to take a last minute trip to wdw for the holidays if I can work everything out. I really want to see the Disney Xmas parade. Is this shown only at the MVMCP? We are looking at the dates of 12/18-23/03. Can anyone who has travelled then tell me about crowds, parades, the MVMCP? Thanks for all your help. Kim [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
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Congratulations!! I've always wanted to visit during the holidays!! Pretty soon, the park hours will be up for December, if they aren't already. It should tell you when the parades are!

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The Christmas parade is shown on MVMCP nights, only at that time. Once MVMCP is over, they introduce the parade in the afternoons. Looking at the dates you're there, it looks like 18, 19 December has MVMCP, while the Christmas parade is on at 3 p.m. on 20 December and at 2 p.m. on 21, 22 and 23 December.

The Christmas parade is not to be missed, but if you haven't seen Share a Dream Come True, be sure to catch that as well while it's showing, as the Christmas parade replaces it.

We went for Christmas 2000 and the crowds didn't get too busy until 24 December. Last year, we found them starting to build from 21 December, the Saturday before Christmas, but they built steadily until Christmas Eve and the worst time was from 25 December onwards.
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Thank you both for your quick reply. Chepz, I have to pick your brain a little more. When you say the crowds were picking up on the 21st, could you tell me how crowded? We usually go in July when its so crowded. I wanted to avoid that. We can get the Poly from the 18th-23 only, they have no other availability with the AP rate for Dec. But the Boardwalk has availability from the 11th -16th. I'd rather stay at the Poly. But I really don't want to fight the crowds. Thanks for your help. Kim
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Kim we have been there for Xmas. We noticed that the crowds actually start picking up the day AFTER Xmas and several CMs confirmed this. The dates you are talking about should be great people as well as temperature wise.
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Thank you burt & sully and Kelly. I hope all of this works out and we can go. We'd be celebrating our 15th Wedding Anniversary and my Mother in Law's 60th birthday. I have a flight held and the room held. I'm just waiting for my MIL to call and say she's going!!!! Send me some pixie dust [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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We've been to Disney three times in the past for Christmas (it will be our fourth this year..woohoo!). In our experience, the crowds really start picking up the weekend before Christmas and grow steadily until Christmas Day...then, bam, it's mega packed. While the parks are pretty crowded those few days before Christmas, it's not so packed that you can't enjoy yourself. It's not quite as crowded as July, but more so than say September. You'll have a fanastic time!

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