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Old 11-02-2006, 10:04 AM   #1
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I want to scratch her beady eyes out & a question~small update in reply

Since Jim is asleep & the kids are at school & my best friend is at work, you guys get to hear my rant!!!

I seem to recall a similar post by me a few years ago regarding Jamie when a girl dumped him.. well this time it happened to Brendan & if you mess with my Muffin I want to hurt you!! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Yes, I know teenage romances aren't supposed to last & have learned that VERY well with my very fickle oldest child.. Jamie had a new 'girl'friend every other day it seems in 6th & 7th grade.. he would break up for the most trivial things & got a 'love em leave em' reputation( which he was proud of, BTW) the nicknames he got from other kids were hysterical. .. He does have a steady girlfriend right now but with him you never know! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
Brendan, on the other hand is very sensitive & loyal.. he is also quick to anger.. Last year he kept a steady girlfriend for several months.. This year he started dating another girl & yesterday she broke up with him for the SECOND time, on My space to boot.. the look on his face was so sad!! His brother gave him lots of ways to get over her & to make her jealous.. Bren wrote her telling her that breaking up was cool since he had someone else he wanted to ask out ( & there is another girl) BUT...
this morning I'm sitting here online & am checking out the boys My Space ( which I check constantly) & she messaged him this AM that her 'sister' got into her My space & broke up with him & it wasn't her.. Bren hasn't read it yet so I'm hoping he doesn't buy into her story if she tells him it today at school. She changed her ENTIRE my space taking his picture off & everything so the sister story is baloney! I explicitly told him yesterday that she was using him & that he shouldn't go back with her until at least after her birthday (Nov 6) I know, I shouldn't butt in but I hated the look on his face..

Okay vent over .. How involved are you in your kids 'things'? My Mom was my best friend & I literally told her EVERYTHING!! she was considered the cool Mom, everyone wanted to come to my house & ADORED her..

Monday Jamie & I were at the mall shopping for his girlfriends birthday gift & we were talking about her gift & he said "You know Mom, Kate called you gangsta" & I had NO CLUE what that meant but he said it means i'm a cool Mom.. He said all of his friends think Jim & I are cool parents.. All 3 of our kids know they can come to us & talk about ANYTHING.. there have been times Jamie has made me [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/jawdrop.gif[/img] over things he's told me but I listen... (& TRY not to judge or be too opinionated) I do check ALL of their online activity & monitor where they are going & wiyth whom & they have to check in & have curfews etc.. so far, they have respected that & followed it to the letter..

so, how strict are you? & how nosey are you? ( parent wise or other?)

I'm very nosey.. I will admit, i'm the first to eavesdrop on a conversation or want to always hear the juiciest gossip...

I know this was supposed to be one question & ended up as three!! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 11-02-2006, 10:09 AM   #2
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[img]/ubb/images/graemlins/ukid.gif[/img] how old are your kids? I don't remember having that much drama in junior high or high school. Although I dated the same guy in 7th and 8th grade. In HS I just dated guys but never had a real b/f until senior year when I was dating a 21 then a 24 y/o (I was 18).

If I were you I would just stay out of it...let the kids work it out unless it gets really bad (slander or libel). No matter what your kids tell you you will never know the whole story. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

[img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] that everything turns out okay. And [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif[/img] for checking up on MySpace.
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Old 11-02-2006, 10:16 AM   #3
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My kids are in 8th and 6th grades. No interest in getting into the boy/girl dating thing at this point as far as I can tell. Fine by me. My kids aren't in what would be termed the "popluar" crowd that gets into that stuff. I am not nosy, and don't know all that goes on in their lives. I do keep track of what is happening at school and do enjoy listening to them talk about/with their friends when appropriate.
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DS is just 4, so I apply my maternal concern to my younger brother and brothers-in-law. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I probably know more about their lives than their own mothers. I'm nosy, I ask about the girlfriends, offer unsolicited advice, and just generally butt in. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] My MIL appreciates it very much - I'm a wealth of knowledge for her when she wants to know what her boys are into. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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My son's only 6 so... My parents weren't nosy at all really, and I liked it that way. It's not that they didn't care, but pretty much stayed out of things unless they had a real reason to worry about something. They definitey weren't considered the "cool" parents though, but alot of my friends knew they could count on my parents for things-- so much so that my best friend gave my mom a #1 Mom charm for Mother's day one year. My parents weren't overly strict, while they had their limits as to what they would allow. I'm figuring I'll probably be the same.
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Ah, the joys of middle school. While I don't have kids, I am in the midst of the middle school drama on a daily basis.

Wait, according to my students, there is no drama in middle school! (don't laught too hard there, people!) [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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My dd still tells me everything too and I hope we can keep that relationship going. I try to talk to her about stuff so I can give her the truth before she picks things up at school. She tells me about "hot" boys from school but hasn't had a boyfriend yet (she is 11 and in 6th grade). You can't date that young anyway so why have a boyfriend. She is beautiful, smart and athletic and I think she is a little intimidating to boys. She is friends with them but no one has shown an interest that way yet. Fine by me and her father. DD isn't allowed on Myspace and doesn't really have time to im people with her homework and sports schedule. I did notice a few new phone numbers on her cell phone recently but they are all girls that I have heard about from school. I will be very nosy when I need to be.
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I would rather be involved than not! My ex-stepmother let her three do whatever they wanted in middle school and by the time the oldes was 15, she moved out! Now the middle one is 17 and dating a 28 yr old. The youngest 14 now was recently suspended for stealing, lying, and trying to make plans to do the "deed" !! I feel so bad because how she ignored them earlier is coming back in spades. Whew that was a long response. Sorry it's just that topic reminds me of the kind of mother I want to be. NOSY and involved!!!
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I just wanted to send you some pixies and tell you that the title of this thread cracked me up! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img]
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Actually, you sound a LOT like me. I've been known to press my ear to the door as my son was outside on the porch talking to a girl. My kids are DD 14 and DS 13.
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Isn't it weird how Mom's become very "vicious" when their young's are hurt. I was the same way about Travis. I was the "cool" Mom and all his buddies always called me Mom. But as he got older, I would do some of the same things that you are doing now. I would monitor his on-line activity and every time his cell phone rang I would ask, "Who was that" if he didnt' volunteer the information. And although I agree with how you are doing, let me just say one thing.

As he got older, Travis became more resentful that I knew "too much" about his business. He became more secretive at times. He never did anything wrong and always called when he was supposed to, that was never a problem. When he left for college in August, he and I had a long talk and he told me that he really didn't mind me knowing alot of stuff about him, he just felt like I was invading his privacy at times and he felt smothered. He was really ready to leave home when it was time to leave for college. We still have a good relationship and he calls every other day. We just talk about different things. When I got an account on Myspace, he helped me set it up. When Facebook, a college website, allowed outside accounts, I called TRavis to see it if would be okay if I got an account. He was surprised that I asked, but I told him I didn't want to invade his territory. He laughed and helped me set up an account.

I guess what I'm saying is it is good to be a protective parent and I would never discourage anyone from being one, but as they get older, they do like their space and they thrive on becoming "responsible adults". Being independent from Mom and Dad seems very important to some kids.

It sounds like you really have a great relationship with your kids.
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I love my kids.

I AM NOT their friends - I actually think it's unhealthy. I have my friends that are MY age, and they have theirs.

I know all of their friends and our door is always open. We've had kids who needed a few days away from home come to our house and stay for awhile. I always make them call their moms, and they have to abide by my rules, but they're okay with it.

I'm strict, but not unreasonably so. I expect to be told the truth, even when it's bad. They get away with a lot more than they probably should, just to re-inforce the "tell me a lie, and it will go much worse for you" - if they tell me the truth, I tend to not discipline very harshly.

I monitor where they are on-line, and who they are talking with, but would never dream of reading their e-mail or their IMs (that's too much like listening in on a phone conversation. They are NOT allowed to have a My-Space, or to be on it at all. I think it's too invasive.

Oddly enough, with all of that, even DDs' friends tell me I'm one of the cool moms. (of course, shades of Whitey - Wally from Leave it to Beaver's friend pop into my head!)

All in all, I think I teeter on that fence about right!
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small UPDATE*****

First off, I'm glad to see i'm not the only Mom who monitors my kids activities like a hawk.. I believe you're never too overly cautious.

Now for the 'girlfriend' saga...

The girl spent that day at school denying she wrote the break up & re-arranged her entire my space to put "I love Brendan" back on it.. (that's a whole other post/rant on the "LOVE" nonsense) Well, my gullible Brendan believed her (that her sis did the breaking up) until Jamie & HIS girfriend had a talk with him..Bren decided that he didn't want the drama of breaking up every other week & KNEW she only wanted to stay together for her birthday..

So... Yesterday he asked another girl 'out' that he's liked for a while.. but of course as we all know in middle school YOU don't ask the person out, you get someone else to.. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img] Well, Bren asked this girls twin brother to ask her out for him.. what was cute is Bren said for her to call him (another middle school thing I don't 'get', girls call the boys now, not the other way around) & he asked the boy "does she know my phone number?" & the boy replied "Off by heart!" so obviously she has liked Bren for a while.. Well, she called last night & they are now boyfriend/girlfriend..

I think it's going to be hilarious when he has his first 'real' girlfriend.. Brendan is such a drama king ( wonder where he gets that from [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/questionicon.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/whistling2.gif[/img]) He insisted on telling me the entire break up, new girl saga SEVERAL times last night..
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Ah, the joys of middle school. While I don't have kids, I am in the midst of the middle school drama on a daily basis.

Wait, according to my students, there is no drama in middle school! (don't laught too hard there, people!) [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL... how do you deal with it??? It's hard for me to not laugh &/or scream at some of the stuff I've seen/heard? Especially at the school dances YOWSA!!
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I understand the middle school thing between childrena d step-children I have 1 in HS,2 in MS and 3 in ES. Thankfully DD - 10 has absolutely NO interest in boys at this time. The DS is a different story I can not count the # of girls we have been through even this school year. I try to stay involved in the step-children's activities ( especially since the oldest girl is in the band)but the other 2 step kids are harder to connect with. My girls also tell me everything but they know that I am strict, but as Shannon (DD10) tells me that is just the way I am. I am glad that other parents have this excitment also. Living in a rural area of MS I sometimes feel like I am the only one going through these things.

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