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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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09-16-2006, 11:41 AM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Michigan's Upper Peninsula
Posts: 27,691
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Allowances
Do your kids get an allowance? If so, how often? How much? Do they just get it or have to earn it?
I just started giving my kids an allowance last week. I got a bunch of quarters and they each started with $3 in quarters on Sat. night. They get a quarter taken away for various reasons (using bad words, fighting, whining, etc.) and I also give them .25 or .50 for doing extra chores. So far Kylor has $1.50 and Jalen has $3.25. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/questionicon.gif[/img] They'll get what's left in the cup tonight and start over with another $3 in quarters for the coming week.
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09-16-2006, 12:10 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Bennington, NE
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 10,556
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Re: Allowances
That's a great way to handle it! Your kids sound like mine. My DS would have probably ended up owing us money, while DD would have about $6! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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09-16-2006, 12:15 PM
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RED SOX NATION!!
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Connecticut
Concierge Level: 9
Posts: 136,854
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Re: Allowances
We just started this with Alexa when we got back from Disney in August. She gets $3 a week. For the $3, she has to brush her teeth and floss every day, she has to clean the toy room twice a week, and she has to clean her room and put her clothes away as well.
So far, she has done pretty good. She went into a big cleaning frenzy last night, as she knew payday was coming [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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09-16-2006, 01:12 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Near a Tower of Terror at the moment...
Posts: 13,884
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Re: Allowances
We don't do allowance, but DDs can earn money doing extra jobs. We think that dishes, laundry, room cleaning, etc are all part of their contribution to the functioning of the household and they shouldn't be paid for it, anymore than I'm paid for what I do. They help FIL in his gardens, help MIL with some of her chores, help me with packaging/pricing things, so lots of opportunity to earn money.
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09-16-2006, 04:01 PM
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Living Seas wannabe
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 31,940
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Re: Allowances
I don't have kids, and all the cats want are toys and food.. plus a comfy place to sleep... however - DNiece has recently started earning an allowance for chores, etc - she is saving it for her Med cruise w/us next summer.
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09-16-2006, 04:32 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: the Burbs outside of Philadelphia
Concierge Level: 1
Posts: 12,093
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Re: Allowances
My dd gets $5 a week. It isn't for chores because since no one pays me to clean the house I'm not paying her although she does have thing to do around the house to help out (when she isn't in a cast that is). The money is more for her to figure out how to handle it and now I don't just buy her everything she wants. It's better to figure out how bad you want something and do you want it enough to spend your own money on it.
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09-16-2006, 05:23 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indiana , USA
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 26,527
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Re: Allowances
Kathryn (13) gets $30 a month.
Lauren (8) gets $20 a month.
They used to get twice that much, but they weren't doing their chores. I took their allowances away for 6 weeks, then when they started doing chores again on a regular basis without prompting (cleaning the litter box, putting away the dishes, rinsing off the dinner plates, picking up and sweeping the floor), I re-instated them at half price. They may never go to full price again.
I don't take away for bad things, that's what punishments are for. I figure that allowances are their salaries for performing their jobs. When they didn't do their jobs, they got "fired" and then were "enslaved", as Kathryn put it. they decided it's better to do the chore and get some money than to risk no money and still having to do the chore. There is no extra money for doing extra things, unless I give it them just because they were exceptionally helpful or did such a great job, they get a "bonus".
There is no cost of living increase.
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09-16-2006, 07:50 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 7,569
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Re: Allowances
My wonderful DH came up with this system. The kids "job" is school. As long as we are getting good reports about their effort (not necessarily performance) then they earn $5 a week. But...
$1 is taken off the top for taxes (just like in life) this goes in an envelope and we use it for stuff like when they need extra for field trips.
$1 goes in their short term savings jar. You can spend the money in the short term savings when you have $5 saved up.
$1 goes in their long term savings jar. You can only spend that money when you have $20 saved up.
That leaves $2 for them to spend each week.
Now Chet got smart and realized that if he put his $2 in the short term savings then he could spend all that money a lot faster.
The quarter before we go on a Disney trip, all allowance is given out in Disney Dollars (actually I save up til the end and just give it then rather than trying to get all those $5's) and it is not subject to tax or savings. That usually gives them about $50 to spend in the parks.
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09-18-2006, 10:46 AM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Florida Big Bend
Posts: 17,133
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Allowances
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I don't have kids, and all the cats want are toys and food.. plus a comfy place to sleep...
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H'mm this sounds familiar.
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09-18-2006, 05:27 PM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,695
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Re: Allowances
We don't do allowances yet, but its interesting reading what everyone else is doing. My 4 year old DD is just starting to be interested in money and having her own. Not spending it mind you, just having it. She'll find some coins that DH has put on the counter and say, "Ha ha, I found them and now they're mine so I'm going to put them in my Pooh bank."
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09-19-2006, 08:03 AM
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Community Rank: Trailblazer
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Maine
Posts: 5,893
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Re: Allowances
I think your allowance structure is great!
DD12 gets an allowance but it is dependent upon her doing her chores without having to be reminded to do it. She doesn't have too many . . . empty and load the dishwasher and scoop the litterboxes and feed the cats for $4 a week. She is expected to do other things, too when asked but that's the minimum we expect.
If she wants some extra $ for something we will add a big chore, for example, mowing the lawn.
Our oldest now 17 has refused to pitch in for a few years now and so we stopped her allowance.
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09-19-2006, 11:46 AM
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: TX
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 1,145
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Re: Allowances
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We don't do allowance, but DDs can earn money doing extra jobs. We think that dishes, laundry, room cleaning, etc are all part of their contribution to the functioning of the household and they shouldn't be paid for it, anymore than I'm paid for what I do. [ QUOTE ]
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09-19-2006, 12:35 PM
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Community Rank: Trailblazer
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Chicago suburbs
Posts: 5,714
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Re: Allowances
We don't do allowance. The kids' job is school, their home jobs are part of being in our family (make beds, dust, emptly dishwasher, trashcans, etc.) but when they want to do something like go to a movie or school dance, we give them the money. DD is ambitious and babysits quite a bit, so she has a stash. I've started buying her the necessities (underclothes, socks, 2 prs. jeans, 4 shirts), but making her pay for extra clothes or extravagant things that are more expensive than I think is normal.
We just had a hard trip to the mall on Sunday. She was drooling over a stupid shirt from Hollister, but finally settled on 2 or 3 for the same price from Aeropostale. It was totally her decision, but she was still sort of bummed. How do we get our kids to realize that the name brand doesn't "make" the person??
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