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04-16-2006, 11:15 PM
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Another in law vent~ what is with my in laws & shelby\'s communion??
Yet another in law is going goofy over Shelby's communion.. My brother & SIL are Shelby's godparents & a while back my SIL mentioned wanting to go out & buy Shelby's dress for her.. Well, I started to get worried when she didn't mention anything so I had Shelby look on line at wedding stores for Communion dresses to get an idea.. well, she fell in love with a dress from, of all places Ebay... it looked absolutely stunning with beading, lace, full skirt.. the works.. It was a great price too I took Shelby to some local stores & she found nothing comparable that she liked so we called SIL & found out she was in florida.. I didn't want to wait & pass up this deal so I went ahead & bought it... It came last week & it IS stunningly beautiful
Well, the problem comes this past friday when SIL calls & tells me she is going to take Shelby dress shopping next week.. I first off tell her we got a dress as 90% of the dressed are picked over already & that we tried to call her & she was welcome to come see how pretty it is..
Today they(Bro,SIL & 2 nieces) came over to give the kids their easter baskets & I show them the dress.. the girls go into Shelby's room for her to try it on & when I walk in they are saying they think the dress is beautiful but they would still like to see what else <u>THEY</u> might like .. I gently remind them it is Shelby's choice & SHE chose this dress.. then my Daughter ( not dear right now) turns to me "Mommy, please can I go with Aunt Debbie & Emily to look for something else???" pleading.. I of course, agree but am hurt/angry. Then SIL starts to critique the dress.. it's too big .. I inform her the 8 was tight we needed to buy a 10.. she then thinks *IF* we keep this dress we should get a sematress to take it in.. Well, I agree to let Jim's Aunt ( the wonderful one from my other post) take a look at it as she does a lot of sewing.. But remember this is 3 weeks before the communion things like this need taken care of ASAP.
After my bro & family leave I ask Shelby why she wanted to go look for another dress & she told me that Aunt Debbie told her they had to & she didn't wan't to make her mad.. I asked her if she wanted to keep the dress & she said yes, she doesn't want another one..
For Shelby's birthday a similar incident happened where she saw an adorable brown velvet suit she wanted & my SIL agreed to buy it but when they went to look at it SIL didn't like the skirt & refused & bought Shelby a padded bra instead ( I was fuming over that one) I returned the bra & bought the skirt Shelby wanted but it still makes me mad that SIL wants this kind of control over an 8YO.
Jim was so angry after hearing me tell Shelby if she wanted to keep that dress then SHE had to tell Aunt Debbie that he gave her an ultimatum.."If you don't wear the dress you picked first, I won't come to your communion" ( of course he wasn't serious but my SIL is so stubborn she will brow beat Shelby into HER way)
now, here's the dilemma.. How do I get Shelby to stand up to SIL.. *I* can tell her until I'm blue in the face *I* want that dress but she will simply say they found another THEY liked & Shelby will go along with it... SIL is saying she can't take Shelby to look at dressed until next week so WHEN am I supposed to hire a seamtress to do the dress??? I am not putting any more $$ into a dress that Shelby might not wear nor am I going to go running around the last week trying to get a dress taken in 1/4"
aARGH!!!!! I want to just cancel this entire party & say forget it, we'll go to the church ceremony & then home, no party!! It's supposed to be a happy solemn occasion & it's turning into one stress filled nightmare after another..
BTW.. (not that this counts) my brother thought the dress was beautiful & asked if Shelby was getting married..(it does rival a wedding dress) But unfortunately, my brother has no say-so in their house.. he's only the one who pays the bills!! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
Thanks for letting me vent again.. It's too late to call any of my 'here' friends so you guys were 'lucky' (HA!) to have to listen to me gripe & moan...
oh, how do you like the dress??? [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] |
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04-16-2006, 11:19 PM
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Community Rank: Legend 
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Re: Another in law vent~ what is with my in laws & shelby\'s communion??
That dress is gorgeous!
[img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] that Shelby can stand up to her Aunt.
Good Luck
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04-16-2006, 11:52 PM
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Re: Another in law vent~ what is with my in laws & shelby\'s communion??
First of all the dress is beautiful. As for your SIL, YOU, not Shelby needs to tell her to back off. You got the dress Shelby is going to wear and that is the end of it. Here's some [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] to get tough with her.
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04-17-2006, 12:01 AM
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Re: Another in law vent~ what is with my in laws & shelby\'s communion??
Ann, do not do it. Don't let Shelby kowtow to the aunt just so nobody's mad. My daughter did that all her young years and then I thought it was cute and sweet - now she gets taken advantage of all the time. I also don't think it's fair to ask an 8 year old to stand up to an adult. So I guess what I'm saying is YOU should find out FOR SURE from Shelby if she loves her beautiful dress. Once you get the for sure, tell Auntie Buttinsky that you and Shelby have discussed it and that's going to be her communion dress.
I sound so bossy. I'm sorry. But Aunty B'sky should have spoken up wayyyyy before now if she wanted in on the dress decision. I can't wait to see pics of Shelbs in it. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/love.gif[/img]
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04-17-2006, 12:16 AM
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Dopey's biggest fan!
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Re: Another in law vent~ what is with my in laws & shelby\'s communion??
I am with Mel on this one, Ann. It is YOUR daughter and SHELBY'S day, so it should be up to you two. Thank your SIL for her opinion and tell her that you and Shelby have decided that the dress you already have is the dress she wants to wear. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/082502yes_prv.gif[/img]
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04-17-2006, 03:14 AM
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Re: Another in law vent~ what is with my in laws & shelby\'s communion??
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I am with Mel on this one, Ann. It is YOUR daughter and SHELBY'S day, so it should be up to you two. Thank your SIL for her opinion and tell her that you and Shelby have decided that the dress you already have is the dress she wants to wear. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/082502yes_prv.gif[/img]
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[/ QUOTE ] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/yeahthat.gif[/img] I agree . [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/luck.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img]
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04-17-2006, 06:39 AM
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Re: Another in law vent~ what is with my in laws & shelby\'s communion??
The dress is beautiful but I just don't think it's fair to ask an 8yo (even one as mature as Shelly [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]) to stand up to a formidable grown-up. Especially a relative! I would tell Shelly that the decision is hers, she can wear whatever dress she likes but that it needs to be HER decision. Assure her that you will tell her Aunt of her decision. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/082502yes_prv.gif[/img] That way she has the confidence to make a decision and feel secrue in it without having to face what sounds like a pretty unreasonable adult.
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04-17-2006, 07:56 AM
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Location: Mississippi
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Re: Another in law vent~ what is with my in laws & shelby\'s communion??
The dress is very beautiful! I know Shelby must look like a princess in it. I agree with the others. This is your daughter and her dress. If this is the one she likes then it is up to you, the parent to tell SIL to back off. An 8yo is not strong or mature enough to stand up to an overbarring adult. Here are some pixies for you to be strong and for Shelby to have a stress free memorable day. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img]
Necie
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04-17-2006, 08:13 AM
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Living Seas wannabe
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Re: Another in law vent~ what is with my in laws & shelby\'s communion??
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Ann, do not do it. Don't let Shelby kowtow to the aunt just so nobody's mad. My daughter did that all her young years and then I thought it was cute and sweet - now she gets taken advantage of all the time. I also don't think it's fair to ask an 8 year old to stand up to an adult. So I guess what I'm saying is YOU should find out FOR SURE from Shelby if she loves her beautiful dress. Once you get the for sure, tell Auntie Buttinsky that you and Shelby have discussed it and that's going to be her communion dress.
I sound so bossy. I'm sorry. But Aunty B'sky should have spoken up wayyyyy before now if she wanted in on the dress decision. I can't wait to see pics of Shelbs in it. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/love.gif[/img]
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I think Mel hit the nail on the head.
I think the dress is BEAUTIFUL and Shelby will be a lovely girl in it!! I can not wait to see the pictures!
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04-17-2006, 08:33 AM
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Re: Another in law vent~ what is with my in laws & shelby\'s communion??
First of all, the dress is beautiful!
Second of all, why would an eight year old need a padded bra? She's eight, can't she be a little kid for a few more years??
Verify with Shelby that this IS the dress she wants, and then call Auntie Dearest and break the news.
Good luck!! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img]
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04-17-2006, 08:35 AM
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Re: Another in law vent~ what is with my in laws & shelby\'s communion??
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The dress is very beautiful! I know Shelby must look like a princess in it. I agree with the others. This is your daughter and her dress. If this is the one she likes then it is up to you, the parent to tell SIL to back off. An 8yo is not strong or mature enough to stand up to an overbarring adult. Here are some pixies for you to be strong and for Shelby to have a stress free memorable day. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img]
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04-17-2006, 08:40 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Re: Another in law vent~ what is with my in laws & shelby\'s communion??
The dress is STUNNING! It sounds like your SIL is so wrapped up in what she wants that she isn't paying attention to what your daughter wants. Pixies for you to make things better! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img]
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04-17-2006, 08:50 AM
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Faith, Trust, Pixie Dust
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Re: Another in law vent~ what is with my in laws & shelby\'s communion??
There's nothing worse than being a child and having to feel like you need to please all the adults around you. Talk to Shelby, let HER decide which dress she wants, then you need to talk to SIL on Shelby's behalf. Good Luck!!!!!!!!
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04-17-2006, 09:12 AM
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Re: Another in law vent~ what is with my in laws & shelby\'s communion??
I think the child is being put into an unfair situation. She wants to please you and the sister in law. It's possible that she doesn't like it although i think it's very nice.
It's your responsibility to tell the SIL not the daughter.
It seems this "nice day" is on a collision course with stress if all the adults don't start remembering who the day is for.
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04-17-2006, 09:23 AM
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Re: Another in law vent~ what is with my in laws & shelby\'s communion??
Poor Shelby. I agree w/everyone else, I just wanted to say how totally out of line for a non-parent to buy a little girl her first bra. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img]
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