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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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03-02-2005, 10:04 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: the Burbs outside of Philadelphia
Concierge Level: 1
Posts: 12,093
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Re: I can\'t believe this
I feel the exact same way. DD is in 4th grade and it is already hard. I had to ask the reading teacher last year for a sheet to tell me what a Predicate was so I could help her with her homework and math is just next to impossible.
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03-02-2005, 10:16 AM
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Faith, Trust, Pixie Dust
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Connecticut
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 34,171
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Re: I can\'t believe this
Oh Tina-it gets worse! Then the kids learn how dumb we really are!
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03-02-2005, 10:35 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Kissimmee, FL
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 10,481
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Re: I can\'t believe this
I realize one day that I had forgotten how to do long division. How sad is that and I have my Bachelor's degree! How sad is that! I think I could figure it out if I had to but heck...isn't that why we have calculators??
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03-02-2005, 10:38 AM
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Community Rank: Traveler
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: San Antonio, TX
Concierge Level: 1
Posts: 311
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Re: I can\'t believe this
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I think the hardest is intermediate school (jr. high). They're still young enough to remember how you helped in elementary school but the content is getting harder so you'll find yourself not knowing stuff. By high school, they're like, "Eh. She won't know."
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I agree. My DS is in enriched 6th grade math and both DH and I have trouble sometimes helping him, and I'm a chemist and DH is an engineer!
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03-02-2005, 10:40 AM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: California
Posts: 3,878
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Re: I can\'t believe this
High school math is impossible, it is like a foreign language I can't help my kids with it.
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03-02-2005, 11:26 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 36,592
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Re: I can\'t believe this
I can't tell you how many times we had to ask the teacher how to do certain math problems, starting in third grade. My husband is very good at Math and has a Masters in Business and still didn't know how to do some of the 3rd grade math. There are new methods of teaching math concepts that we never learned. Don't feel bad.
-HiddenMickey
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03-02-2005, 12:37 PM
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,268
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Re: I can\'t believe this
Tina,
I feel your pain. Last year, when my son was in 3rd grade, the school district decided to switch the elementary math curriculum to "Everyday Math". It's a great math curriculum that via hands on concepts. The kids love it but it has left parents with that look of "huh?" on their faces. Thankfully, our school has math nights once a month for parents to come and be tutored on the program.
I will admit that there are times when I review his homework and am clueless about what they are doing. He's in 4th grade now and they are doing some very basic algebra. Something I didn't see until 7th grade and was very bad at it!
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03-02-2005, 12:47 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Michigan's Upper Peninsula
Posts: 27,691
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Re: I can\'t believe this
Thanks, guys. I don't feel so bad now! In high school I was always in the honors classes for social studies, poli sci, English, etc. but I struggled so bad in sciences and math. I remember sitting at the kitchen table crying while my dad was trying to explain some math to me (my dad, the engineer, but NOT a good teacher!)
We all have our strong points, I guess. I won spelling bees, etc. and my dad couldn't spell to save his life.
Good thing Kylor's a smart kid!!
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03-02-2005, 12:47 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Northern NV
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 12,516
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Re: I can\'t believe this
I teach the Everyday Math to my 2nd graders, and I really love it. It allows for so much higher level thinking, problem solving, and individualized instruction when necessary. We used to only teach addition, subtraction, time and money in second grade. Now the kids are exposed to so much more, and most of my class loves math. It does look different though, so it can be intimidating to those of us who weren't strong in math (me included, but since I've been teaching math this way, I finally "get it" too). My younger daughter has been using this program since 2nd grade, and she can figure out some pretty amazing things in her head.
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03-02-2005, 01:48 PM
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Columbus Ohio USA
Posts: 1,902
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Re: I can\'t believe this
I was good in regular math (adding, subtraction, fractions, dividing, multiplying) but NEVER got Algebra or Geometry so I was useless after grade school for my older son. By the time my middle son came along, they were teaching calculus in middle school and I was completely at a loss. Then with my youngest, they started algebra and geometry in grade school. I couldn't even help him with his long division since they used something called "Hatching" and divided up instead of down.
I always think of the scene in "When Peggy Sue Got Married" where Kathleen Turner is back in her old algebra class and says to her teacher "Mr.____, I happen to know for a fact that I will never use this in my future life." (not an exact quote)
Suzie
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03-02-2005, 02:13 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 2,584
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Re: I can\'t believe this
I'm with everyone else who agrees that today's math is different than what we learned back in our days. My 3rd grader was learning last week how to write out the money amount on a check, like "two hundred thirteen and 13/100 dollars". Not sure why he needs to learn that right now! I felt like saying, "like you'll ever get your hands on my checkbook!" He seems to be figuring it out on his own without me.
After reading Terri's post, I'm not too worried about his math skills. He wants to be a marine biologist when he grows up so he can work with seals.
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03-02-2005, 02:53 PM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: London, England
Posts: 4,429
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Re: I can\'t believe this
Tina, with my boys homework, sometimes it's not about what they have to do, it's how much they get. They come home with so much, that I am pretty certain that I didn't have half as much as them at 9 years old. I'm sure they work them to much sometimes.
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03-02-2005, 07:44 PM
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Community Rank: Trailblazer
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 5,064
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Re: I can\'t believe this
I think kids are learning more stuff a lot faster than I was when I was in school. I hear you about the math stuff--when I have kids, I don't know how I'm going to help them since I'm so bad in math!
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