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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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12-09-2004, 07:58 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Near a Tower of Terror at the moment...
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and the downside to DD\'s license...insurance!
I called to add her as a licensed driver and our policy went up $70 per month  and that was *with* driver's ed and good student discounts!!! It doesn't kick in until January's bill, but that's such a big jump! With her "new" car, it's around $120 per month just for her. Breathe in, breathe out!  I cannot think of it in terms of how much "Disney" that money would buy me every year! |
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12-09-2004, 08:16 PM
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Community Rank: Legend 
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Re: and the downside to DD\'s license...insurance!
You are lucky Dawn!  You don't even want to know what my insurance is with two teenaged drivers, one of them being accident prone!  |
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12-09-2004, 09:16 PM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter 
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Re: and the downside to DD\'s license...insurance!
This is exactly one of the reasons I am making my kids 16 and 17 wait until they are eighteen to get their license. DS will be able to get his permit at 17 1/2 without going through the drivers training part. He will have to drive with either me or DH for six months and by that time he will be 18 and can get his license and a job and pay for his own insurance.
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12-09-2004, 10:39 PM
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Re: and the downside to DD\'s license...insurance!
DS just got rid of his car and is now on our policy. BIG OUCH!!! How many years until he's 25??  |
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12-10-2004, 12:03 AM
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Community Rank: Legend
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Location: North Central Ohio
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Re: and the downside to DD\'s license...insurance!
When we added DS our car insurance doubled! Then he managed to get 2 speeding tickets before he was 18 years old and another one 6 months later and our insurance company dropped him off of our policy. We told him he was going to have to pay his own insurance then! Sure was nice to get back to the lower bill! I'm happy to report that he has grown up in the last couple of years and has had no more tickets!  |
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12-10-2004, 12:48 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
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Re: and the downside to DD\'s license...insurance!
I know how you feel - I have TWO teenage sons that are driving !!! My insurance bill is crazy ! |
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12-10-2004, 02:26 AM
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PassPorter Message Board Manager
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Re: and the downside to DD\'s license...insurance!
Ouch! |
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12-10-2004, 02:45 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
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Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Re: and the downside to DD\'s license...insurance!
It is nice to have them driving, but insurance is really the downside!  After the accident that DD was in last year that wasn't really her fault, her premiums went up drastically. It is even harder to pay knowing that somebody else caused the accident but the insurance company wouldn't believe her or her friends because they were all 16 at the time!  |
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12-10-2004, 03:11 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
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Re: and the downside to DD\'s license...insurance!
that's expensive!
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12-10-2004, 09:17 AM
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Re: and the downside to DD\'s license...insurance!
Wow, times sure have changed. My sisters and I were all told that if we wanted to drive, we had to be responsible for all the costs. We were told it was a privelege, not a right. I know I won't be footing the bill when my boys get behind the wheel...
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12-10-2004, 10:20 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
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Re: and the downside to DD\'s license...insurance!
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Wow, times sure have changed. My sisters and I were all told that if we wanted to drive, we had to be responsible for all the costs. We were told it was a privelege, not a right. I know I won't be footing the bill when my boys get behind the wheel...
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For now, she pays $100 a month towards it, but when she moves to my parents in Jan, I told my dad that I would cover it out of the child support $$ I receive for her. Unfortunately, that's almost 1/3 of that...sometimes I think that the child support should be scaled so that it increases automatically when kids are old enough to drive, need band instruments, braces, etc.
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12-10-2004, 10:27 AM
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Re: and the downside to DD\'s license...insurance!
That's cool. You're one cool mom to pay for her insurance. Hope she realizes how lucky she has it....
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12-10-2004, 10:47 AM
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Community Rank: Trailblazer 
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Location: Orlando area via Chicago
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Re: and the downside to DD\'s license...insurance!
Oh yes, I remember how much my insurance was. I had to pay for it. As soon as I turned 16, I had to get a job and pay for insurance and gas. Good luck.
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12-11-2004, 10:13 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
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Location: Florida Big Bend
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and the downside to DD\'s license...insurance!
Try living in Florida!!!
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12-13-2004, 01:29 PM
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Community Rank: Adventurer 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Media, PA
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Re: and the downside to DD\'s license...insurance!
This is the reason my almost 17 year old son (December 16) is not driving. Driving is a privilege not a right and believe me they will take it a lot more seriously and not take as many chances such as speeding, showing off etc... when they are financially responsible for insurance etc. My son doesn't want to get a job so therefore he can not get his permit. My 19 year old dd got a job when she was 16. She saved every penny and paid for drivers ed., in-car training and bought her own car with cash. She has a 1999 Hyundai Accent. You would think it was a Mercedes. She worked so hard for it that she VALUES it. She graduated with a 4.0 GPA, #4 in her graduating class. I am covering her insurance while she is attending Muhlenberg College but up until she left she covered her part of the insurance and paid for all her own gas, car registration, inspection etc. I personally think the driving age should be raised to 18. We have had far to many fatalities and young lives changed forever because of speeding and making poor choices behind the wheel.
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