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Old 05-20-2017, 09:30 AM   #1
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Potential conflicts with MagicBands?

We are literally on the road to WDW now. Last night at a hotel in GA our room keys were so sensitive to our cell phones they couldn't even pass each other without demagnetizing the cards. I have never had that experience. Yes, I did know that holding the cards and phone together would demagnetize, but never passing within inches.
Will these bands be deactivated if near cell phones? I know there is a name, or initials, for the type of programming/frequency, but after last night it is now a concern.
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Unless something has changed, all I can tell you is that we have never had an issue, and sometimes I have my phone in hand, right next to the MB, making a FP+ reservation. If not in hand, my phone is usually in my pocket or small park bag, usually very close to my MB...no issues at all.

The term for the technology is RFID (radio frequency identification), and it has worked beautifully for us.
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You can even shower or swim while wearing your MB!

No worries unless you get that rarity of a MB that won't open your room which is usually easily fixed at your resort's front desk.

Have a magical time! I'm soooooo envious!
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No, never had an issue and we wear our bands continuously while at WDW, swimming, showering, walking around. I once had one that didn't seem to want to open our room door, but as Dot said, it was easily fixed.
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We are literally on the road to WDW now. Last night at a hotel in GA our room keys were so sensitive to our cell phones they couldn't even pass each other without demagnetizing the cards. I have never had that experience. Yes, I did know that holding the cards and phone together would demagnetize, but never passing within inches.
Will these bands be deactivated if near cell phones? I know there is a name, or initials, for the type of programming/frequency, but after last night it is now a concern.
Thanks for helping Newbies!!
No worries.

MagicBands do not use magnetic strips like key cards, they use RFID chips, which are a non-magnetic, non-volatile medium. RFID chips are completely unaffected by magnetic fields, so MagicBands will not be damaged in any way by phones, magnetic cards, magnets, or other MagicBands.

MagicBands are also sealed units with non-conductive outer casings, so they're not even affected by static electricity or other environmental concerns. They're insulated, so if you happen to get a static charge by walking across a rug, the static discharge won't affect the MB at all, because it can't get to the electronics sealed inside.

The sealed outer casing is also waterproof, so your MBs will not be affected in any way by water, which is why you can swim and shower with your MB on and it will still work perfectly (this is particularly convenient when heading to the pool at your WDW resort or to a water park.)

In case you're wondering, "Well, if the unit is so sealed, how do they change the programming on it when I make a change to my reservations?", the answer is, they don't. Once a MagicBand is sealed, the information inside it is never changed. It's a read-only medium. All of your data is stored in Disney's computer system. The ONLY data on a MagicBand is the MB's own unique ID number, nothing else. It's the computer system that changes when you change a res or add a feature to your Disney account.

You might then wonder, "Well then how do they tell the MBs to open the door locks for my room?" They don't. They tell the room locks that it's okay to open for your unique MagicBand between your check-in day and your check-out day.

The MB is nothing but an ID, and the ID itself never changes. Only the computer system is reprogrammed, to allow that particular ID to access whatever features you have purchased and to associate that ID with your Disney account.
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No worries.

MagicBands do not use magnetic strips like key cards, they use RFID chips, which are a non-magnetic, non-volatile medium. RFID chips are completely unaffected by magnetic fields, so MagicBands will not be damaged in any way by phones, magnetic cards, magnets, or other MagicBands.

MagicBands are also sealed units with non-conductive outer casings, so they're not even affected by static electricity or other environmental concerns. They're insulated, so if you happen to get a static charge by walking across a rug, the static discharge won't affect the MB at all, because it can't get to the electronics sealed inside.

The sealed outer casing is also waterproof, so your MBs will not be affected in any way by water, which is why you can swim and shower with your MB on and it will still work perfectly (this is particularly convenient when heading to the pool at your WDW resort or to a water park.)

In case you're wondering, "Well, if the unit is so sealed, how do they change the programming on it when I make a change to my reservations?", the answer is, they don't. Once a MagicBand is sealed, the information inside it is never changed. It's a read-only medium. All of your data is stored in Disney's computer system. The ONLY data on a MagicBand is the MB's own unique ID number, nothing else. It's the computer system that changes when you change a res or add a feature to your Disney account.

You might then wonder, "Well then how do they tell the MBs to open the door locks for my room?" They don't. They tell the room locks that it's okay to open for your unique MagicBand between your check-in day and your check-out day.

The MB is nothing but an ID, and the ID itself never changes. Only the computer system is reprogrammed, to allow that particular ID to access whatever features you have purchased and to associate that ID with your Disney account.
Thank you for putting all of this into layman's terms for those people who are struggling to understand the technology. I think most just over complicate it. I think Disney needs to copy your explanation and put it on their website and hand out a copy to every one who gets a magic band. There are so many that are concerned unnecessarily because they do not understand how it works.
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I think Disney needs to copy your explanation and put it on their website and hand out a copy to every one who gets a magic band. There are so many that are concerned unnecessarily because they do not understand how it works.
Waste of effort, paper, and ink, trust me. Too few people would read it.

I taught high school and started each year by handing out my one-page classroom rules sheet which I then read aloud.

I always got a laugh from several students because I announced before beginning that I would read it to them not because I thought they couldn't read it but because I knew they wouldn't.

That way, they had no excuse!

Most people, I bet, couldn't care less how the things work as long as they DO work.
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I think the number 1 question people have is about if they lost their magic band, will whomever finds it have access to their credit card info. I think a quick rundown about how it works would reassure people that their info is safe. It seems like that question comes up most on the all of the discussion boards. I think people are not wanting one because of it. If they knew it was just like the key cards that they handed out before, then I think more people would be OK with the magic bands. I have seen so many posts saying that they don't want one for fear of loosing it and someone having their info. Plus it does not cost them anything to put it on their website right when you are able to customize one for yourself.
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All I am going to say is I have never had an issue with my cellphone been close to the Magic Band and then just refer you to WillCAD post above on how the Magic Bands works.
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I think the number 1 question people have is about if they lost their magic band, will whomever finds it have access to their credit card info. I think a quick rundown about how it works would reassure people that their info is safe. It seems like that question comes up most on the all of the discussion boards. I think people are not wanting one because of it. If they knew it was just like the key cards that they handed out before, then I think more people would be OK with the magic bands. I have seen so many posts saying that they don't want one for fear of loosing it and someone having their info. Plus it does not cost them anything to put it on their website right when you are able to customize one for yourself.
Most of the info I have actually IS posted on Disney's site somewhere, the problem is that it's buried in long, boring, fine-print FAQ's that are dull as dishwater and get read as much as the fine print in a Microsoft license agreement.
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Last night at a hotel in GA our room keys were so sensitive to our cell phones they couldn't even pass each other without demagnetizing the cards.
Completely different technology.

MagicBands don't have anything in them that can be demagnetized; they use an RFID "chip" - that's "Radio Frequency ID". Essentially, and this is oversimplifying it a lot, but: they have a little tiny radio in them; when a Disney device asks them "who are you", they send back a long ID code. Disney's computers use that code to look up who YOU are, and unlock your room doors (or signal you've got a ticket for that theme park, etc). Note, that signal isn't terribly strong, which is why you need to put the band right up near the door lock.



Meanwhile, it sounds like that GA hotel is using ridiculously cheap cards. I'd find somewhere else to stay in the future, because that makes me worry about the quality of their LOCKS. And just generally, what other corners they might be cutting.
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Most of the info I have actually IS posted on Disney's site somewhere, the problem is that it's buried in long, boring, fine-print FAQ's that are dull as dishwater and get read as much as the fine print in a Microsoft license agreement.
It should be right where you customize your magic bands. A window should pop up showing all of this so people can see right away how it works to allay their fears.
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