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This horrific tragedy has made me realize that I need to work on not making assumptions when I see this sort of headline before reading the article. I'm embarrassed to admit that my first thought other than how horrifying & tragic it was/is was "where the hell were the parents." The only thing I can say in excuse or defense is that it seems like the vast majority of the time when we hear/read about these sorts of incidents the adult(s) responsible for the child weren't paying attention. I can't even begin to imagine what the family is going through & what anyone else who witnessed this tragedy or responded to it & searched for the boy must be going through. I hope that everyone involved is able to find some sort of peace & closure.
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If people are feeding the alligators (or any other wild animal at Disney) they need to be fined and then removed. Back to how stupid are people. Feeding any wild animal is not good be it a bird, alligator, squirrel or bear. JUst because you are at Disney is not an excuse for being mindless.
MY advice is do not feed alligators or any animal in the wild.
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I'm really upset to see people blaming the parents. Please, they're suffering enough. Let it rest.
Unfortunately people have forgotten what it means to be empathetic. We've entered the year of the Perfect Parent and we blame and shame them for what we think is irresponsibility. As a parent in this day and age, I sometimes wonder if I'll ever be good enough for those high standards.
I've really been trying to not get into any debates on these threads out of respect for this community and the people who run these boards, but as a mother, I feel like it's only right that I come to the aid of this grief stricken family. Yes, there are parents out there that have blatant disregard for the rules...climbing, cutting in line, speeding that ends in deadly car accidents, etc., and that is completely inexcusable and blame-worthy, but I'm sorry, this wasn't one of those times. They weren't swimming, they were wading, with some reports even saying they were close to the waters edge, but since I wasn't there I'm not going to assume that I know exactly where the child's proximity to the water was.
I've been to Disney over 40 times, and every single time I've visited, I've seen people wading in the water at the beaches on Disney property. Never in a million years would I have thought this could happen. Maybe Disney didn't think so either because they were showing the movie Zootopia on that beach, which is most likely why that family was down there. Yeah, we know Alligators live in Florida, and yes, I've actually seen them in the waterways at Disney, BUT, would I have ever thought that a gator would do what it did? Nope. Which I guess now puts me in the category of "irresponsible parent".
Tragically, what's done is now done. All we can do is hug our children and silently give thanks that we've been lucky enough to avoid any accidental mishaps that could have had those fingers pointed towards us instead of them. Again, I'm sorry if this post causes any friction, as I respect everyone here, but I just needed to get that off my chest.
Oh, and I feed the squirrels at my house...by hand. My daughter even named one Fluffy.
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