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So we are going to Vegas at the end of March and are thinking about a day trip to the western rim of the Grand Canyon. I believe it is about 4 1/2 hours each way. Has anybody done this as a one day trip before? Can it be done?
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It can be done in a day and there are lots of companies that offer one day trips out to the Grand Canyon from Vegas. We've done it twice in a day, but both times we flew. The first time we took a helicopter trip over it and the second time, we flew out by plane, landed, took a helicopter down to the base of the canyon, then took a boat ride, helicopter back up to the rim, some time there, then back by plane.
I know if you drive, it's a very long day. A friend of mine did it, as she didn't want to fly and I think it was about a 12-14 hour for them.
We had looked into it when we were out there. We ended up just driving to Williams Ariz. and getting a hotel and staying the night. We went to the south rim though.
You can do it in one day, but it will be very long.
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I agree, it is possible but it'd be a loooong day. We decided to fly there for the day. I liked the fact that we had quite a bit of time at the Grand Canyon. However, the flight itself was horrible. The tiny airplane didn't feel safe at all (I won't go into details ).
If you are going to try and do it in a day, I also suggest getting a helipcopter tour. We drove to Flagstaff and stayed the night there, then drove. You could do it in a day, but it would basically be getting there, taking a few pictures, then getting back in the car. Not worth 9 hours in the car.
I drove to the sotuhrim on my last LV trip. 4.5 hrs to the western rim seems a little long. I was thinking it was closer to 3-3.5 hrs. It was right at 275 miles to the south rim. I just googled west rim, and it says it's 120 miles from LV.
A day trip to the western rim is definitely doable if you leave LV in the AM. There's not a whole lot to do there. There's the Sky Bridge (seperate charge), some kind of Indian village, and you can go whitewater rafting. The price you pay to get in the park includes a on-off shuttle to the various lookouts and sites.
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We have also done the helicopter tour - it was WORTH every penny!!! We did one that took us over several other sites (Hoover Dam, Lake Mead, the Vegas Strip) and it included a champagne picnic lunch and transportation to/from hotel to heliport. Like I said - absolutely WORTH every penny!!! It was BREATHTAKING!!! And we left early am (maybe 9ish?) and were back at hotel in Vegas around 2-3ish? and that was with landing for lunch in canyon! Worth all the time saved!
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We did a tour out of Vegas. It was a very long day. 6am to about 10 pm. There and back. It was a fun trip and had a great time. just very tiring. Grand Canyon was worth seeing though. Beautiful!!!!!!!!!
I can't imagine just spending a few hours at the Grand Canyon. We spent four days at the North Rim and it wasn't nearly enough time. If you can manage to stay a night in the park, it is worth it. sunrise and sunset are beautiful. Every where you go to look out over the canyon gives yo a different picture.
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