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I noticed that when you purchase the quick service dining plan & the deluxe dining plan you get a free refillable resort mug . We have opted for the middle plan, but it doesn't appear to come with the mugs. Does anyone know why that is or if the plan does come with the mugs? Thanks for any help
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This is one of the strangest things they do with the DDP. Why not just add $10 or $12 to the per person cost to the regular plan? Would that amount be a deal breaker for anyone when comparing the plans??
This is one of the strangest things they do with the DDP. Why not just add $10 or $12 to the per person cost to the regular plan? Would that amount be a deal breaker for anyone when comparing the plans??
Yes and no....my kids don't need refillable mugs. We rarely eat at the resort and it's much more cost effective for me to spend $4 and bring a couple boxes of Capri Suns for the kids to drink in the room. Even the time me and DH have bought them, we haven't used them all that much.
But if it only raised the ddp price like $1-2 a day, it might be worth it.
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Ok, I can understand that. But since they are already built into the QS and Dx, why don't they just include them in the regular? The only reason I can imagine is that more people choose QS than regular and they want that price difference to be as little as possible to try enticing people to upgrade.
My theory is that the QS and Deluxe versions needed a "value added" plus to make them more palatable to the consumer. The regular dining plan was already doing fine without Disney needing to do anything else to draw people to it.
Especially with the QS, the average guest is more likely to eat at least one meal per day in the food court.
I always get the mug, even if I'm not eatting in the resort food court, I grab a coffee in the morning on my way out, and an ice tea or lemonade or 2 for my mid day break, and something at night coming back from the parks. So I get good use out of it.
It would be nice if the mugs came with all the DDP plans.
My theory is that the QS and Deluxe versions needed a "value added" plus to make them more palatable to the consumer. The regular dining plan was already doing fine without Disney needing to do anything else to draw people to it.
This is reason that I have heard as to, more than likely, why they don't offer them with the basic plan. Less and less people were opting for the higher and lower tiered options so they needed a selling point for those.
We always get the refillable mugs, as we stay every year at AS Music, a value resort, and eat at the food court at least once per day. We find the mugs very useful as we drink a lot of diet Coke, hot tea, and lemonade, so the mugs save us quite a bit over buying one drink at a time. After trying the QSDP for "free" last year, we decided to get it again this year for our trip because of the convenience, but without the refillable mug being included, we might have chosen to skip it. The price of the QSDP is actually about the same as what we would normally spend OOP, so it is the refillable mugs plus ease of use that make it worthwhile for us.
I think they threw them into the deluxe plan to make it seem, well, more deluxe, but I also think that they could add them to the regular DP for only a little bit more and make everyone happy, or at least, happier.
I love the refillable mug because we actually use them everyday at home when we get back. Use them in the winter for hot chocolate and for ice tea in the summer.
Thanks everyone for the responses. I believe that if your going to offer them for two of the three dining plans, then they should offer them for all three! We are planning on purchasing two of the mugs, but it would have been nice if they were included.
Disney calculates the value of everything in each plan. If the mugs were to be offered with the regular dining plan, it would increase the cost of that plan. Not everyone needs or wants the mugs, so I think it is better to have a plan that doesn't automatically "throw" them in (and of course, nothing is thrown in in WDW! It is all figured in the cost. Just like how "free dining" is not free ).
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no milk or juices, just whatever is available on the beverage islands although you could buy the milk and juice in bottles then pour them into the mugs
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It is all figured in the cost. Just like how "free dining" is not free 
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