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Old 10-14-2010, 07:21 PM   #1
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Week after Thanksgiving..

Our trip is scheduled for 11/28-12/5 and I was getting a little worried about the crowd levels because of all the recent posts about no available hotel rooms etc.

Well I just got a pin code today for a choice between free dining or room discount for those dates.

So maybe it won't be that crowded...??? Maybe?? Wishful thinking??
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:39 PM   #2
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We'll be there Nov. 30th - Dec. 6th, I've been worried about the same thing!
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Old 10-14-2010, 07:47 PM   #3
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The week after Thanksgiving is not generally very crowed. The larger crowds are a couple of days before until the Sunday after. There are several events happening toward the end of the following week and into the weekend like Pop Warner and Mousetacular, the Christmas Parade taping and other miscellaneous conventions, but nothing that will significantly affect the crowd levels.
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Old 10-15-2010, 12:34 PM   #4
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We are there Nov 26- Dec 4th and have done the same days for about 4 years now, crowds are not bad.

When is the christmas parade taping, anyone know?
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I was there a few years ago during the Christmas Parade taping. Ride lines are fine during the time they are taping, but I would get out of dodge when they finish. It became so packed you could hardly move!

During the taping, if you actally stay down in the area in front of the castle, you can get pictures of everything and even some with the people in the parade. We had a blast. We also got to interact, from aways off, with the characters, waving and such. I have some great pictures of them while doing that. It is interesting to see how they film it and what it looks like on TV. They definately edit it, as some acts were in different parts of the parade than it was filmed.
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We are going Nov 29-Dec 6 so we'll be there at the same time.

I have heard the taping is Fri, Dec 3 and Sat, Dec 4. I hope the MVMCP won't be terribly crowded on the 3rd because that's when we plan on going. We are actually planning on being in MK on Fri because I would like to see the taping of the parade. I hope this is not a bad idea I figured we would want to go back to our room early afternoon and get ready for the party anyway so hopefully we will miss the biggest crowds (I know, wishful thinking).
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We will be there 11/30-12/8, and I too was getting worried. But the resorts are not booked solid until the 5th on...which is the start of Pop Warner. (I checked...I had no problems what so ever getting a room ressie on Disney's site up through the 4th...but as soon as I changed my checkout to the 5th, all booked up...like almost every resort on property.) And from what I've heard, the Pop Warner kids are busy all day with their activities and do not affect the parks much. It's mainly the resorts that are busy.

We decided to stay far away from MK on parade taping days. As cool as it would be to be there...my almost 3 y/o would not be happy sitting there for hours. And even though I read the rides are not busy...I just don't want to deal with any of it. We will be at MK that Sunday, so I really hope it doesn't rain Friday or Saturday, cause that's the rain date!
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We were there last year for two weeks. We arrivied the day after Thanksgiving. We were soooo happy with the lack of crowds! we walked onto virtually everything. Even Soarin and test track I don't think we waitied longer than 30 minutes tops. We did notice a little rise in the crowds on weekend days but it was still very managable. We did notice that even with the smaller crowds the restaurants were always full....I beleive they had been offering a free dining promo duing that time.
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We've been before and arrived on the Tuesday evening after Thanksgiving. From then we found the crowds to be very low.
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We go right after Thanksgiving every year (11/28 -12/6 this year) and have not found too many problems with crowds, although MK was ugly one night last year when my son and I went for fireworks. Strangers literally grabbed me to keep me from falling off a curb on Main St. because the place was so crowded, we couldn't see our feet! I think the MVMCP has a lot to do with that, as folks who don't go to the party are all squeezing in on the "off" nights. We saw the display just fine, leaning on a fence behind the popcorn wagon. But we went to Cosmic Ray's and got a snack afterward rather than try to leave in that mob.
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We will be there from Nov 26 - Dec 4. I am glad to hear that this is a good week for low crowds. I can't wait!!!

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We will be there Dec. 1 - Dec. 7. Glad to hear that the crowds shouldn't be too bad. I was getting pretty nervous about it. This is our first trip during the holiday season. Glad to hear that you were able to take advantage of a promotion. I am still keeping my fingers crossed that I will be able to get one!
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