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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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03-19-2003, 11:02 AM
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Community Rank: Sightseer
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Winston Salem, NC
Posts: 61
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Security at international ports
I have read alot the past couple of days about increased security for cruise ships docked at US ports. I understand the US Coast Guard is escorting ships out of US waterways. Does anyone know how safe the ships are once they leave the US waters and while they are docked at international ports. Just looking for some reassurance.
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03-19-2003, 01:12 PM
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Community Rank: Traveler
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Michigan
Posts: 284
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Re: Security at international ports
I was on the Disney Magic 3/1-3/8/03 and we noticed many coast guard type boats patrolling the area in Key West and Grand Cayman and armed soldiers patrolling the pier in Cozumel. Security to the ship was good as you had to show your photo ID and ship ID at least once to be allowed access to the pier and boarding areas before you could even return to your ship and show ID again. I understand you desire for reassurance. Hope it helps. Have a great time. I am ready to go again and i haven't been back for two weeks yet.
This is my first post after reading these boards for the last couple years at lunch (I don't have internet at home yet and we won't talk about why, just at work).
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03-19-2003, 02:55 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Ann Arbor, MI USA
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 14,427
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Re: Security at international ports
If we go on the basis of experience over the past century, large cruise ships in the Atlantic/Caribbean region are incredibly safe from hostile acts. I'm not familiar with any instance of piracy or terrorism involving the big ships in these waters during this period, and I don't think there have been acts of war since WWII.
There have been some isolated incidents in other parts of the world, so we know that it is possible. The Achille Lauro hijacking in 1985 is the only incident involving a mid-to-large size cruise ship that I'm familar with. Still, that was a much smaller ship (400 passengers and crew). Recent hostile acts against military and cargo ships have taken place in the Persian Gulf region. It's safe to say that that region is not a popular destination for cruise ships these days.
We can discuss the potential vulnurability of cruise ships to a variety of hostile acts, and speculate on the kind of resources and forces necessary to mount such acts, but for the most part, it would be outlining the plot of a work of fiction (like The Towering Inferno, Die Hard, Under Siege or The Poseidon Adventure). I'm not interested in spawning new Urban Legends.
Could a civilian ship be attacked in a manner similar to the U.S.S. Cole? We can certainly imagine it, but we don't have the knowledge or tools to calculate the real probabilities. That's the nature of terrorism. It leaves us guessing and in fear. That's one reason why the Coast Guard openly displays its vigilance by escorting ships out of port. It makes us all feel like someone is doing something.
Public displays of vigilance (baggage inspections, armed security guards, etc.) serve two primary purposes. They reassure the public, and they deter would-be attackers. However, in all likelihood, it's the security procedures that are not widely discussed in public and are invisible to the casual eye that are the most effective. For example, the same systems that were developed to track Soviet warships and aircraft worldwide during the Cold War are still around, as are the Caribbean-focused efforts to restrict drug smuggling. And these systems are more sophisticated than ever.
Worldwide, port authorities are quite aware of the possibility of terrorism, its effect on the safety of individuals and cargos, and its potential impact on the local economy. In many ways, until recently the U.S. lagged behind other developed nations in this regard. Worldwide, ports are routinely patrolled to defend against smuggling and ensure that health and immigration regulations are enforced. For years, the U.S. has helped fund these efforts as part of its anti-drug initiatives.
Anti-terrorism initiatives are simply added to existing precautions. For example, in Cozumel there's a Mexican coast guard station next to the cruise pier, staffed by several heavily-armed patrol boats. In Nassau, the Bahamian naval forces dock their largest vessels right next to the cruise ships. These overt shows of protective force are more common when the public feels insecure.
More than 40,000 Americans die in highway accidents every year, so as always, you'll be at far greater risk driving to the airport or sea port than you'll ever be once in the air or at sea. Over 16,000 of those deaths are attributable to a different kind of terrorist - the drunken driver.
As in the case of traffic safety, there are many steps taken to curb the likelihood of terrorist acts. As with traffic safety, none are likely to be 100% effective. The risk of terrorism is just one more risk we have to assimilate into our lives.
I think the important message now, as it was in the darkest days following 9/11, is that we all have a choice. We can live our daily lives normally, with the knowledge that there are always dangers and risks, whether we stay within the comforting walls of our homes or venture out into the wider world. Or we can let the terrorists win.
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03-19-2003, 06:36 PM
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Community Rank: Sightseer
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Winston Salem, NC
Posts: 61
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Re: Security at international ports
Thanks so much Dave!
Your statement was just what I needed not only for our upcoming trips, but also for all that we all are going through now. Comforting information and realistic.
I am someone who appreciates details (That's why I have a Passporter!) and you were able to say what somehow just doesn't get communicated by our leaders or the media. While I very much am willing to "go on with my life" as I have heard for a while now, I also like to hear a little bit of an explanation on that message.
Enough with the heavy stuff for now. Coming home from dinner tonight on a chilly North Carolina evening my wife saw a car with a Florida license plate and said, "Ahhhh, I can't wait until we go."
We just can't wait.
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03-19-2003, 09:56 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Connecticut
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 16,825
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Re: Security at international ports
Our last cruise was 8 days after 9/11. While it was a very scary time for everyone, I felt it important to move on with life and focus on my husband and good times. There was heightened security, however far less than there is now. It was too soon after 9/11 for the new security measures to be in place! [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] I would not trade the memories of that trip for anything.
Thanks Dave for answering this question and reassuring us so eloquently.
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03-20-2003, 08:03 AM
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Community Rank: Tourist
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 15
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Re: Security at international ports
well said Dave. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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