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[AKLRULZ]

So what are your thoughts on the whole Yankees/Red Sox bruhaha from Saturday? And dang it what happened to the Cubs last night?! Who's gonna win?

[Dumbo]

I'm blaming the whole thing on those rotten Yankees. I hate the Yankees and have since the 60's.

As for the Cubs I really think baseball is rigged somehow and there has to be 6 or 7 games.

Signed,

Want a Cubs/Red Sox series.

[coffeechef]

The Bruhahah. Being a Red Sox fan & having hated the Yankees for a long time, (I especially dislike Jeter). I have to say I was a bit disappointed with Pedro. OK Maybe Zimmer should not have charged out onto the Field like that but for Pedro to do what he did to an old Man was disgusting. To me that was the equal to hitting a child who is having a tamtrum & kicking you.
Don Zimmer is 72 yrs old I don't care if it did look like he was going to take a swing. Pedro was way out of line and should be fined a lot more than 50,000. On the other hand I think Zimmer needs to retire,he looked foolish out there, I think he is likely suffering from dementia or something.
I think the whole fight thing was out of hand. that pitch from Clemens was not that bad,wonder if he was told to that if a pitch came close & he just jumped the gun. I don't love baseball the way I used 25 yrs ago. Now they are just a bunch of overpaid Primadonna's If you want tru baseball you have the watch College & Babe Ruth league. But thats only if you can get the Parents to shut up & just enjoy the Game. I would love to see Baseball brought back to its purest form. Where you played because you deserved to play & kids could have fun imitating their fav players not trying to be them for their Parents. Getting of the Soapbox now.lol

[mattjs]

My amazement is when the announcers and writers act shocked by what happened. They can disagree with it if they want, but shocked?...I don't think so.

Pedro, and Clemens have been intimidators thier entire careers. It's nothing new. And if I were Garcia in that spot, I woulda been expecting high and tight. Up to that point, Pedro couldn't and/or didn't wanna throw the fastball and the curve wasn't working for him. Bottom line, he was losing control of the game. And if you're a hitter facing a Pedro or a Clemens in that spot, you gotta seriously think about chin music on the next pitch That's why Pedro and Clemens establish the reputation to begin with...to get in a batters head in a tough spot. You don't have to like it, but it's been part of the game for 100 years (see "Beckett v. Sosa" last night).

Personally, I'm not a big fan of throwing behind guys heads, but again, it's part of the game. Always has been, always will be.

"Hey ump, how 'bout a warning?"......"Sure, kid. Watch out you don't get killed."

<font size="2" face="Comic Sans MS, Arial">As for the rest of it, no question it was ugly...all of it...But again, shock and surprise from announcers/writers??? That's just ridiculous.

There's A LOT of bad blood between these teams, going back A LOT of years. The fans carry that baggage (and I mean all of it) forward and it spills out onto the field. Big shock there huh? [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] So, as for the writers and announcers?......The media know they're working around a tinderbox. Heck, they do everything they can all season long to remind us how much we hate each other. Then they act aghast [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] when ya throw the playoffs (aka "the gasoline") on an already raging fire and it blows up! Imagine that! Where were these writers in the 1999 Yanks/Sox ALCS when things got out of hand?

Look, it's an UNBELIEVEABLE rivalry. Always has been, always will be. And every time these teams meet in the playoffs, things will get out of control. That's a fact. Ya don't have to like it, but the history of the rivalry is what it is. And the announcers and writers do everything in thier part to nurture it. That way they have plenty of great stories to write about how "outrageous" and "shocking" the series has become. The TV ratings for this series have been through the roof. And how psyched do you think those shocked Fox announcers'll be to see the ratings for tonights game? Watch how they hype it up by implying "you just gotta watch" cause all hell might break lose [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

I love baseball...I love the Red Sox...I intensely dislike the Yankees, and I hate Saturday's kinda ugly scene. But am I shocked?!? Not really. I was there in '99 (the phantom tag game) when everybody stopped the game throwing cups, etc. on the field. It's a borderline unhealthy rivalry! But bring it on! Game 4 tonight!

[ 10-13-2003, 11:44 AM: Message edited by: mattjs ]