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We are going to WDW 9/15-9/21. Our DS is 7. We are going to do the Behind the Seeds Tour after we eat lunch at the Garden Grill. Has anyone ever done this tour? What did you think of it? How will a 7 year old like it?
I thought it was really neat, but I'm not so sure a 7 year old would enjoy it as much. They showed us much of the same stuff you see as you ride the Land boat ride, but talk about it and of course take you into the greenhouses, etc. You don't see a whole lot more than you do on the boat, but you learn a lot more about it.
If your 7 year old is like ours, two speeds, on and off, I would not recomend it. DW is an earth science teacher and I enjoy gardening an learning new things. While it was enjoyable and we both got something out of it we both felt it was lacking any magic. Think back to films in middle school science. There were a couple kids that did not appear to be enjoying themselves much. DD would have been bored out of her skull in the first 10 minutes.
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I have to agree. DH and I went last year with another couple. We all enjoyed it, but I don't know too many 7 YOs that would stay interested for the entire tour.
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You learn a lot about hydroponics, and aeroponics, pest-stopping insects, and all about the different kinds of fruits and vegetables Disney grows for its own restaurants. I really enjoyed our tour, but at the same time, I don't really think a 7YO would, unless they're the type of person who are really into that sort of thing. I feel like it really is they type of thing that's more for adults than kids, simply because it's a pretty straight-forward tour - "Here's a vanilla bean. We grow 9 lb lemons and pumpkins in the shapes of Mickey heads."
We thought behind the seeds would be good for our then 5 1/2 yo. one hour...how bad could it be...and my dad wanted to take it. DS loved the Land boat ride, so I thought this would be good. I was wrong. The tour lasted over 1 1/2 hours. I was even bored, DS was very patient, but clearly this wasn't any magical moment for him. They explained everything you see on the boat ride in great detail and you see the bugs that they use for treating infestations. Our guide let DS feed the fish, he waved to everyone riding the boat and held a Mickey pumpkin, other than that, he would have been happier just taking the boat. Everyone is different and all the tour guides are different too. Maybe if we had a better guide that didn't go on for sooooo long I would feel differently, but I think that the people who enjoy this tour the most are those that love gardening or are very interested in hydroponics or are very interested in science.
The tour is great...but if you don't have any interest in learning about hydroponics and aerial growth, it may bore you. It is okay for the kids...on our tour they got to release some lady bugs into the greenhouse, so that was cool.
I loved the tour, but I have a serious backround in horticulture and agriculture.....my degree is in Florictulture Merchandising.
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My parents did it a few years ago, and really enjoyed it. I have not done it though. At the time, they were in their early '50's (you're welcome, Mama ) and they both are into gardening. I'm not sure how a 7 year old would like it....I could see one of my nephews, who is 12 now, liking it as a 7 year old, but the other nephew and my nieces would be bored.
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We really enjoyed it, especially as we love gardening. I have to be honest though - unless your seven year old is interested in gardening, I'm not sure they'd like it. I did the tour with my parents when I was 14 and I hated gardening at that stage of my life and I was so bored.
My 11yr old DS wants to do this tour with me. DH not so much. Not quite sure about 10yr DD. DS is in love with gators, so that is his main interest. We do like to grow herbs at home so this would be fun for us, I think. I also have a coupon for 15% off the tour.
I made my DDs go as a "field trip" when they were 10 & 8. They just about passed out when the guy handed them ladybugs in jars b/c their only experience is with the orange beetle kind that we have that pinch Once I explained the difference, they perked up! DDs got to feed alligators and fish which they enjoyed. They were fascinated by the hydroponics, but weren't interested in sampling the tomatoes from the tomato tree. Our tour guide was VERY interested in his subject matter which made it a bit dry at times. DDs were not thrilled with the whole thing, but weren't rolling their eyes about it, either. Now 9yo just found the handout we got about hydroponic gardening and asked if we could try it this year.
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I have not done it though. At the time, they were in their early '50's (you're welcome, Mama 
) and they both are into gardening. I'm not sure how a 7 year old would like it....I could see one of my nephews, who is 12 now, liking it as a 7 year old, but the other nephew and my nieces would be bored. 
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Once I explained the difference, they perked up! DDs got to feed alligators and fish which they enjoyed. They were fascinated by the hydroponics, but weren't interested in sampling the tomatoes from the tomato tree. Our tour guide was VERY interested in his subject matter which made it a bit dry at times. DDs were not thrilled with the whole thing, but weren't rolling their eyes about it, either. Now 9yo just found the handout we got about hydroponic gardening and asked if we could try it this year.
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