As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
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There are other changes as well.
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To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
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We are planning on taking a 4 day double dip cruise in 2009 (if they have one) and on that cruise will be taking my DD who will be 18.2 years old and her DF who will be 17.8 years old. We are wondering if they will both be able to partake in the teen program for 17 year olds or will the 18.2 year old be exclude? Do they check ages for the teen areas? Would the 17.8 year old be allowed in the adult pool and such areas? Would the 17.8 year old be allowed in the dance clubs?
Both will have just graduated from High School.
I know that these are a lot of questions but my DD and her DF would like to know what they will and will not be able to do with each other.
Thanks!
Last edited by D1sneyDad; 11-30-2007 at 09:53 PM..
Disney has the birthdates of all passengers (everyone has to present passports by then), so there's no getting around age limits at the teen club and kids clubs (and fortunately, at the bars as well). It's all coded right into the Key to the World cards. Disney does not allow kids who are too old for the programs to participate. Considering how divisive it would be for the friend to participate in Teen Club activities while your daughter couldn't, assume that the Teen Club, teen beach, and teen excursions are out. If the 17 year-old tries to go ashore in a port of call without your permission, she'll be stopped before they can leave the ship.
When it comes to the adult pool and the dance clubs... It's really a matter of their behavior. Don't do anything that would lead the crew to ask for ID, and a nearly 18-year-old will probably get away with it. Act in a manner that annoys the adults in the area or attracts the attention of the crew, and that'll be a different story.
Rules are rules, regardless, so you and the girls have to appreciate that there's a real downside to poor behavior. If you intentionally plan to stretch the rules, you have to be ready to deal with the potential consequences. The cruise line can and will resort to "house arrest" for teens that misbehave - that'll fall squarely on your daughter's friend, while your daughter will for good or bad, have more leeway as an adult. In a really bad case, it's even possible that you won't be allowed the second half of that back-to-back. Effectively, if your daughter's friend is excluded from the adult areas due to their behavior, that excludes your daughter as well (unless she doesn't mind losing a friend). If your daughter's behavior attracts the attention of the authorities and therefore "outs" her younger friend, that's not going to go down very well, either.
You said a "4 day double dip," but I'd imagine you meant a 14? 14 nights is a major commitment if something doesn't work out as anticipated. Meantime, since it's still a ways to go before that cruise, it may not be easy for any of you to project their behavior 18 months or more from now. Will they be mature beyond their years, or in a mood to blow off post-graduation steam?
Good luck! I don't have to worry about this for another three years!
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