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Sorry you had such a rough start to your trip. I know all too well how kids can become possessed at times. Sounds like all is going pretty well so far. Can't wait for more!!!
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Some trips are just smoother than others. But it's still Disney.
What else happened?
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I haven't been to Sea World in about 17 years, so I thought it was time for a visit. I also thought that DM's Hubby (R) would enjoy it. I think he did. I say "think" because he never showed ANY emotion what so ever (except for once- I'll get to that later) Anyway up until this point we had seen a lot of things. We even did Cirque. Not once did R say he liked anything. He said nothing about the food, shows, parks, rides, hotel...etc. Did I mention that this was his first visit EVER to anything Disney? I really started to think that he wasn't enjoying himself at all. Although he didn't say he like Cirque, I do think he enjoyed it because he did shell out some $$ for the DVD. So after a long 4 days..It finally came to a head. I had had it. I could have dealt with the fact that he showed no emotion, complained about the long waits, complained about how expensive everything was, was rude to a couple of CM's (that really bugged me), I even bit my tongue when he climbed out of the boat in Mexico when the ride stopped for a couple of minutes. He actually CLIMBED out in the dark and scaled the emergency walkway along the side and climbed over a railing to make it out (Not before wacking his head on the ceiling at one point).
Anyway, As we were leaving SW at 7pm, Guess who wanted to change the plans? The plan was to head over to DTD to Wolfgang Puck Express for dinner. He wanted me to bring him back to OKW to get his car because he didn't want to walk around DTD after dinner. I tried to explain that I was not keeping the kids out late and I really NEEDED to get them fed before it got ugly. Yes, it wasn't a big deal to go back to OKW, but I thought it was a waste of time because we all were going back after dinner. I guess I couldn't (still can't) understand why he needed to get his car. So, needless to say this angered R and he began to get huffy with me and started yelling at me. So I walked away after telling my DM that I was not going back to OKW. I thought a grown man could deal withit better than a hungry and tired 2 and 4 yo. So, yeah dinner was fun
After that night I decided that I was done being tour guide, vacation planner, and mind-reader. They were now on their own. I didn't feel to badly about it because my DM has visited WDW more than 20 times. (she taught me well) She knows what she is doing and honestly at that point I figured my pace was too much for R. I also thought it would be nice to spend some alone time with my DH and kids.
On a more happier note, the weather did improve. The weather was great for the remainder of the trip. We had a very tasty dinner at LeCellier. Even if I did have to leave the table 3 times with my 2yo for bad behavior. I was use to this by now. After all, the food was so good, nothing could take away from it!!!!
My DD4 loved all the rides. She even did ToT and loved it. She is a little daredevil and couldn't get enough of all the rides. She also loved Soarin. It wasn't until the end that she became a little frightened of the fireworks.
DD2 really got into the character this year. She loved JoJo the most. We got some great picture of both girls having lots of fun.
All in all. it wasn't a bad trip. It was a learning experience. I did learn that I will probably not take extended family with us again. It just wasn't relaxing!!!
On the drive back to MA. DH and I discussed a possible trip in July to help us recover from this one Haha, my planned worked!!! I was trying to convince DH we should go in July.
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Sorry things didn't go well with "R" I'm glad you had some good times, and are already planning another trip back Thanks for sharing your adventures with us
I even bit my tongue when he climbed out of the boat in Mexico when the ride stopped for a couple of minutes. He actually CLIMBED out in the dark and scaled the emergency walkway along the side and climbed over a railing to make it out (Not before wacking his head on the ceiling at one point).
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We just got back from Disney and my FIL(?) acted the SAME way!! Except to him everyting was, "It's alright." It was like dragging a big old lump around who really didn't want to be there!!!!! I know exactly how you felt! I did ALL the planning and felt I couldn't make him happy. I started calling him Mr. Lumpy & Grumpy. I had to keep reminding myself that I was at the Happiest Place on Earth. I will not go on anymore vacations with him.
So what happened next?
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. I say "think" because he never showed ANY emotion what so ever (except for once- I'll get to that later)
Anyway up until this point we had seen a lot of things. We even did Cirque. Not once did R say he liked anything. He said nothing about the food, shows, parks, rides, hotel...etc. Did I mention that this was his first visit EVER to anything Disney? I really started to think that he wasn't enjoying himself at all. Although he didn't say he like Cirque, I do think he enjoyed it because he did shell out some $$ for the DVD. So after a long 4 days..It finally came to a head. I had had it. I could have dealt with the fact that he showed no emotion, complained about the long waits, complained about how expensive everything was, was rude to a couple of CM's (that really bugged me), I even bit my tongue when he climbed out of the boat in Mexico when the ride stopped for a couple of minutes. He actually CLIMBED out in the dark and scaled the emergency walkway along the side and climbed over a railing to make it out (Not before wacking his head on the ceiling at one point
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I'm glad you had some good times, and are already planning another trip back 
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