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Old 08-15-2006, 08:52 AM   #1
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Here we go again . . . DD, ADD, and School Rant

Most of you are familiar with my DD17 and her diagnosis of ADD in April of this year and her struggles. She did well the last quarter and passed her classes (some just barely) and is a senior. We were all relieved. We had a long talk with her about her future, supporting her, telling her she had all summer to think about what she wanted to do, if she wanted help with the ADD, think about an easier schedule for senior year, she didn't have to go to college if she didn't want to, etc. etc. Lots of love and support and hugs and positive reinforcement.

She has been doing very well on her meds and is having a great summer. She has been working 25-30 hours a week. She loves her job and she works very hard. She took a driver's ed class and will get her permit Thursday.

A great summer . . . until now.

She had all summer to do an essay for her senior English class. Any time we asked her how she was doing on it, she would get very angry and say we were treating her like a baby and that she could handle a simple essay.

We decided yes, she was right, she's 17, and ADD or not, she could certainly remember one assignment she had two months to complete. After all, she took AP English last year and got a 4 on her AP English test. She decided not to do AP English again this year because she wanted to take another AP course and she didn't think she could handle both. Good decision, we agreed. She understands her limitations and is making good choices . . . or so we thought.

DH woke up this morning at 3:00 a.m. and found her downstairs writing. The assignment is due TODAY, and she hasn't even started it. When she got home from work last night, she watched TV and read a romance book. It never even occurred to us that she hadn't done the assignment!

Why does she continue to set herself up to fail? I don't understand.

I am very sad that she is obviously struggling so much, but she is angry and defiant when offered assistance. Half of me wants to drag her to the special ed coordinator and force her to get help she needs with her learning diability . . . the other half says that at 17, I have to let her make her own decisions, and even if she fails time and time again I need to let it go unless I am asked to help.

Thanks for reading my rant, I feel a bit better, but my heart aches for her.

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Re: Here we go again . . . DD, ADD, and School Rant

Pixies for you all again! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] I got worked up just reading your post.....I can't imagine how you are feeling. Nothing like procrastinating until the last minute! Is there any way that you would consider making her do assignments before she is allowed to do anything else? Homework done before getting to talk to friends, go to your job, watch TV....etc....?
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Sorry she is having a difficult time!! I can understand how frustrating it is! What about approching the special ed coordinator and see if he/she approches your DD to see if help is needed??

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Re: Here we go again . . . DD, ADD, and School Rant

I think you daughter needs to learn consequences to her actions. I was lazy in high school...because I was allowed to be. My parents always said, "Do your best." I translated that into, "Do what makes my parents THINK I am doing my best." I never "did my best" and that caused me ALOT of problems in college. Even if you don't go to college it is VERY important to learn that life isn't going to just hand you stuff because you DO something...you need to really DO YOUR BEST. Those that don’t work to their potential don’t get hired in for the “good” job or get passed up for promotions. Most bosses are very observant and can see how is not working hardest.

I don't have kids so I can't even imagine what it is like to raise a child. However I was a young adult with learning problems...it is a hard struggle and I honestly wish my parents would have sat down with me and said, "Look this is what we expect from you and if you need help with it we are here." I NEVER got that...my parents never sat down and helped me with my homework...mom would balk at proofreading my papers. The best thing you can do for your daughter is get involved with her education. Honestly I don't think this is an ADD problem, it is a lazy problem.

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Re: Here we go again . . . DD, ADD, and School Rant

My DD is also going to be a senior this year and has ADHD (unmedicated now but medicated in the past) and she tends to procrastinate with her school work or just plain not do it at all. At their age you can't MAKE them do their work unfortunately (like you can with say a 3rd grader who hates homework like DD#2 [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]) It doesn't always work but one of my rules for my DD is that she cannot go out or do anything after school for the first quarter and then when I receive her report card and there are no "incomplete assignment" comments she can go out one or two days (including Sunday) during the week afterschool (after she comes home first and does her homework) until 9:00 then if I receive any "incomplete assignment" comments for on her report or progress report for the rest of the year she loses school nights for the rest of the year. She has rarely made it out on a school night in three years of high school [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] but she passes her classes so she is not missing too much homework. Good luck ADD is so NOT fun [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/082502no_prv.gif[/img]!! If you have any questions or just need to vent don't hesitate to PM me I have so BTDT!!
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Re: Here we go again . . . DD, ADD, and School Rant

I'm so sorry for you all. It's hard to see it start all over again.
I'd begin to think about whether or not you will allow her use of the car. I'd explain that if she is not responsible to get her school work done, then I'm not ready to add the responsibility of a car (and her safety) to her already stressed out life.
I might also insist that her job become really part time (no more than 15 or 20 hours a week).
Seriously, check out John Rosemond's "Ending the Homework Hassle". He has a great school reporting system that can be modified for all grade levels and he has some great advice for handling these types of situations.
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I'm sorry for the trials that your family is going through. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img]

I do agree with the responses I've read so far and as a former teen with a job I would say that working requires responsibility and if she doesn't show that at home, then maybe the job is the first thing to go. Does her job require good grades? I worked for McD's at a teen and they certainly did. If you weren't passing....you didn't get any hours.

Another option would be the use of the car. Being able to drive and work are "adult" choices and since she isn't making them in her day to day life with school, then maybe she shouldn't be doing any other "adult" stuff.
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I hope things improve for you; seventeen is such a difficult time. Hang in there.
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All three of my kids (now 23, 21, and 18) were wait to the very last minute to get in done kids. My DD would get up at 3 AM to do homework. My position was as long as they got in done, they could do it when they wanted. They were expected to be good students and all three took all honors classes.

DS2 (who several teachers felt was ADD)probably was less likely to procrastinate than the other two, but suffered from black hole syndrome. He also had trouble getting back on track after an absence from school until his senior year. He needed structure, consistency and predictablity until his senior year. Then he seemed to outgrow it all and has been a star in college.

I did have a couple of restrictions. If they were up too late or too early to have had a good nights rest, they could not drive.

Other than school and other extracuriculars, they did not go out during the week. In my opinion there was no reason to go to tha mall, friend's houses, hang out,etc. during the school week.

They also were encouraged to have goals and to look at how their grades would impact their goals.

You daughter is probably well aware of what's going on. She is probably struggling to be independent while she realizes she still needs help. I would offer, but not force, assistance. My DS2 actually did better using a PDA rather than an assignment book.

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