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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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02-03-2006, 02:17 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Near a Tower of Terror at the moment...
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Lessons and kids
Did you take lessons as a kid? Do you think it's more prevalent now than when you were younger?
I don't know if it's just having grown up in Germany in the Army, but the only lessons I had were piano (and I didn't want those!) My brothers didn't do anything outside of the school day (I take that back, my oldest bro was the drum major for the marching band, but that was it).
Today, at 9yo DDs skating lessons (since they are homeschooled, they each take piano plus a PE, so skating for 9yo and ballet for 7yo), there were moms talking about schedules and so-and-so had this at 5 and that at 630 and they only eat together as a family at Sunday lunch. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Listening to these women really blew me away. I'm sure they thought mine were grossly deprived, but I just don't see that it's healthy for kids to be on the go and 'over-activated'...they need family time and time to just hang out in their rooms. It certainly wouldn't be healthy for ME, either, to be running them all over kingdom come...I need my at-home days too much!
So, do you think kids are in more activities now? Is it b/c parents felt deprived in their own childhoods? Keeping up with the Joneses? Pressure to find a niche?
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02-03-2006, 08:00 AM
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Community Rank: Trailblazer
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Maine
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Re: Lessons and kids
I don't understand parents who feel that their children must be learning every single free minute. What happened to just playing?
My kids have a few activities, but not to the point of excess. And we are home almost every night to eat dinner as a family, unless my oldest is working, and that is only weekends.
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02-03-2006, 08:07 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Long Island, NY
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Re: Lessons and kids
My oldest danced and played soccer. She had plenty of down time. My youngest is a real sports nut and she loves to be scheduled. She is involved in soccer(pretty much all year), basketball (winter), lacrosse (spring), saxophone lessons and art lessons. These are all at her asking and she loves every minute of it. My older DD couldn't do half of that, she needed a lot of down time. I don't mind driving them around as long as they enjoy it.
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02-03-2006, 08:40 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
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Location: Atlanta, GA
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Re: Lessons and kids
Being over-scheduled is just TOO stressful. As a kid I did Girl Scouts and Piano. And like a year of ballet. That's it. My brother did baseball and later guitar lessons. Oh, and I think we did Swim Team a couple of summers, which was probably a good thing to keep us from sleeping til noon.
My kids do swim team in the summer, Lizzie does Gymnastics and Chet does Baseball. We did fall ball last year, but will probably stick to just spring from now on. We did some other stuff, but have really dropped it cause it was just too much.
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02-03-2006, 08:43 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: the Burbs outside of Philadelphia
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Re: Lessons and kids
I think kids are definately more busy with lessons than when I was a kid. My dd has played ice hockey since she was 4 and plays year round travel hockey which takes us all over. We just came back from Canada and in July we will be in Portland Maine. I never got to do even half the stuff my dd gets to do.
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02-03-2006, 09:10 AM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Lafayette, LA & BCV
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Re: Lessons and kids
Growing up the only thing I really did was horse riding. We limit Macy to only 2 afterschool activities during the school year (tumbling and hip hop) and then she also rides horses a few days a week at home (my husband is giving her lessons). We eat dinner together, as a family, every night but one. During the summer, hip hop ends but tumbling continues and then she does at least one session of swimming lessons and usually a couple of cheerleading or dance camps. I have friends whose kids seem to participate in absolutely everything and, honestly, it exhausts me to think of all the running around they do.
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02-03-2006, 09:15 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 8,784
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Re: Lessons and kids
I took swimming lessons and horseback riding lessons. I took piano for 6 years. I begged and begged and begged for dancing lessons (from the time I was 4)-- but my dad told me I didn't have a dancer's body-- he said I was too tall (isn't that terrible?? I mean he's right, I was really tall and uncoordinated as a kid-- but come on lol!!), he thought I would be more suited for swimming-- so that's what I took (and hated every second of it).
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02-03-2006, 10:14 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Niagara Falls
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Re: Lessons and kids
I took dance lessons from the time I was 6 til I was about 11.
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02-03-2006, 12:41 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indiana , USA
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Re: Lessons and kids
I did Boy Scouts (didn't like G.S.) and took either piano, guitar or horse riding, depending on the year.
My kids are only allowed to do 2 things each - and one has to be scouts, something similar, or a school club. That means that they have to think about what they want to do and how to get it done. There is also no quitting in the middle of the year or season because "I don't like it anymore"
I know what you mean about the scheduling. I think it's ridiculous to have your kids in so much. I AM NOT A TAXI!
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02-03-2006, 12:55 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,547
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Re: Lessons and kids
when I was younger I went to gymnastics for four years and Mike and I were on a bowling league for about two years. Then Mike played baseball for nine years, and I played softball for six. Softball was without a doubt my favorite, because my best friends were on my team and our dad's were the coaches. We traveled throughout the city and were the only team who had a boombox in the dugout with them [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif[/img] Our parents would also have a big party each game, bringing snacks and drinks and having a great time. It was SO much fun!
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02-03-2006, 02:18 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: East Bridgewater, MA
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Re: Lessons and kids
When I was a kid, I took dance but didn't even make it to the recital (I hated it!) and swimming lessons for a summer or two, DH was in Scouts.
My kids do a few things during the school year: Josh is in Boy Scouts (1x week), and plays baseball (spring, and summer and fall if it's offered); Jeffrey is in Cub Scouts (3-4x month) and plays spring baseball; Jamie is in Brownies (2-3x month), takes dance (ballet/tap/jazz - 1x week) and will also play spring baseball, and don't forget CCD 1x week.
During the summer, the boys will go to Scout camp for 1 week (different weeks) and all 3 will do either 2 or 4 weeks of the rec. program (3 hours a day).
I think it's good for them to be involved in some organized activities and socialize with kids they maybe wouldn't normally, but they get plenty of 'free' time too.
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02-03-2006, 10:10 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: NE Ohio
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Re: Lessons and kids
I took swimming lesson, dance and was in Girl Scouts as a kid.
DD was in Girl Scouts, played softball and took swimming leson in the summer. I have a friend whose kids are in everything. I makes me tired just thinking of all the running around she does.
Liz
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02-04-2006, 12:15 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Northern NV
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Re: Lessons and kids
We were overscheduled last year, or namely I was. The kids were fine, but when you times the activities by three, it made for a lot of running around for me. So this fall we didn't participate in any organized activities except piano lessons. It was a lovely break, and we found out no more tournament sports for us (until they can take themselves). We'll continue piano lessons, and softball and baseball start soon enough, but the girls will play on the same recreational team this season, and DH is coaching. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif[/img] and Zoie starts back up with ballet tomorrow, hopefully, we'll keep it to once a week. And she's in band too...sigh. My kids love to be busy, busy, busy. I did brownies and swimming lessons when I was a kid. Usually went to summer camp for a week, and took kid classes at our local community college. I guess I liked being busy too.
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02-04-2006, 12:47 AM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Orange, Texas
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Re: Lessons and kids
I was involved in a lot of activities in school, basketball, band, tennis, journalism staff, etc. Travis is involved in alot of sports. I think kids need to be involved in things, but not to the point where they are so busy, they don't have time for homework and family time. I talked with a mother of one of the student's at Travis' school and she said that her daughter doesn't get home until 10:00 at night about twice a week. That's too busy. So, do I think kids need extra-curricular activities, yes. But just learn to balance the time and don't over do it!!
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