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Day One
Well, the laundry’s done (finally!) and the unpacking complete, so I guess it’s time for my TR! For those who might be following who didn’t read my very short PTR, here is a brief introduction of us:
Our trip was October 15-23, and we stayed at the Wilderness Lodge on the Premium Dining Plan.
For us, October started crazy and never let up. October 1 was Elizabeth Frances’ first birthday, and then Phillip’s 12th birthday was just a few days later. The weekend after Phillip’s birthday, Phil’s youngest sister got married, so our Friday, Saturday and Sunday prior to our leaving for Disney were insane and packed with family events. I thought I had the Monday-Friday before our trip pretty empty so I could get laundry done, shopping done, and the house in order. Not so. That week became insane as well. We had snow the week before, so William and Phillip’s soccer games were cancelled that week, meaning they were rescheduled for the week of the 10-14. So add two soccer games. Patrick competes in gymnastics, and their big team meeting was scheduled for another night. Phillip had a major book report due before we left, so we had to work on that. Elizabeth Frances had a check up. A friend who had just returned from a very disappointing trip to WDW for the 40th anniversary wanted us to come by for dinner. I had planned to run errands on Thursday, which is the day I have a sitter for Elizabeth Frances, and then come home and clean the house. But all the stress caught up with me and I had a terrible migraine and ended up going to bed very early that night. Friday was incredibly stressful, with finishing the cleaning, packing and getting ready. But I knew it would get done (it had to, really), and it did.
I went to bed about midnight on Friday night, and got up about 6:00 am on Saturday morning. I showered and finished the last of the packing, while Phil packed the car. We got the boys and Elizabeth Frances up at about 6:30, and we were on our way by 7:15 am for our 9:45 flight. Sometimes it really pays to have boys as they get ready so quickly. Phil dropped us off so he could go park at the Park-n-Jet lot. The five of us waited in a very long security line for about 15 minutes, and then a TSA employee saw us and directed us to the “Special Needs” line because we had a stroller. There was no wait in this line and we were immediately at the front. It was chaotic for us to get through security, but we did it and then decided to get some breakfast. I called Phil to let him know that security was crazy, and he actually went through at a different terminal where the line was much smaller. I took the boys to get Krispy Kreme doughnuts and juice. Then we went to our gate and waited. The waiting area was full of families, because Utah’s fall break was the 19-21, so many families were going to Orlando.
Our flight was overbooked, so Delta was offering a $400 voucher plus first class seating on the next flight if you gave up your seat. It was VERY tempting, and if it had been Phil & I traveling alone we totally would have done it, but since we had the kids we didn’t take advantage. Our flight left right on time. Many of the kids I don’t think had ever flown before because a lot of them screamed like they were on a roller coaster when we took off. It was annoying, though, because I was trying to get Elizabeth Frances to fall asleep, so when the kids screamed, she woke right up. It was a very uneventful flight; we had individual TV screens on our seats so we were able to watch TV. Kids watched movies or played their DS; I played Monopoly on my iPad and rewatched Flight of the Conchords. Elizabeth Frances slept for maybe an hour of our 4 hour flight; when she woke up she watched Spongebob Squarepants which really surprised me since she doesn’t watch TV normally.
We arrived almost half an hour early, which was a huge relief. We left the plane and met Magical Express. We had a little wait, and Phil decided he had to go to the bathroom. I told him if he did, the bus would board. He left anyway, and sure enough, as soon as he got to the bathroom the cast member told us it was time to board. Our bus was only about half full, but we had to wait a while because a woman on the bus forgot to put the yellow tags on her luggage. Instead of disembarking the bus with her family to take care of the problem and then take a later bus, she held up our bus for about 15 minutes while she took care of getting her luggage delivered. And then she acted like it was ME’s fault!
A funny story: On our ME bus was a British family. We overheard the little girl say to her father, “But Daddy, I TOLD you alligators don’t exist!”
Wilderness Lodge was the third stop after Poly and GF. I had done the online check-in, so I was escorted to that desk. My parents had arrived at about 1:15, and they came down to the lobby to see us. Check-in took a lot longer than I had expected. Our rooms were ready and exactly what we requested: two connecting rooms, one with bunk beds and the other with 2 queen beds. Our rooms overlooked the lake and we could see the fireworks from Magic Kingdom at night. If our rooms had been up higher, I think we would have seen Cinderella castle. We also had a great view of the Electric Water Pageant. We headed up to our room to finish watching the LSU/Tennessee game (Geaux Tigers!), and then my mom & I went back to the concierge desk to pick up my package from babiestravellite.com. I highly recommend this service even though it is a bit pricey; I got everything I ordered and it all came exactly as I had ordered it. It saved a lot of room in our luggage, and we were able to mail everything we hadn’t used back to us.
Even though it was early, we decided to leave at 6:40 to catch the ferry to the Contemporary for our 7:30 dinner reservations at California Grill. I’m glad we did, because we had to wait for three ferries because the other two were completely packed. We made it just in time for our reservation, but waited to be seated until 8:15. By this time, the kids were exhausted and very hungry. They weren’t necessarily misbehaving, but doing things like laying on the floor which isn’t exactly appropriate.
I ordered the Rotisserie BBQ Chicken flatbread as my first course, with the beef filet as my main course. I think all the adults ordered the filet as their main course. My meal was delicious and probably the best meal we had our whole trip. For dessert I had the Valrhona Chocolate Cake, which, to be honest, wasn’t as good as I remember. I remember the cake being served warm, and this one wasn’t. We were able to watch Wishes from our window, which was beautiful. The boys loved it. We tried to catch the ferry back to the WL at 9:45, but again the one going to the WL was completely packed and was a minimum 30 minute wait for the next one , so we caught the ferry going to FW then to WL. The captain of this ferry tried to get everyone on. It was very cramped but so worth it! We got back to the room at about 10:20, which is when the WL ferry would have been coming back. Phil took the boys to go swim, and I took Elizabeth Frances with my parents to go get our mugs. Elizabeth Frances did NOT want to go to sleep and kept waking up every time I tried to put her down in the Port-A-Crib. She finally fell asleep for good at about 11. Phil returned with the boys shortly after. I got Will in bed, then left to get some bottled water. I ordered our room service for the next morning, and we were all in bed by 11:30.
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Sounds like a great start, and a great first dinner! Looking forward to reading more! We were there at the same time - I wonder if we ever crossed paths unknowingly!
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WL? Can't wait to have a stay there! Your trip sounds like it is off to a great start!!
We love it at WL. You'll have to try it one day.
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Sounds like a great start, and a great first dinner! Looking forward to reading more! We were there at the same time - I wonder if we ever crossed paths unknowingly!
We were at the same Halloween party! It would be fun to see if we went anywhere else at the same time.
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Great start.
Thanks!
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Great first day!
Thanks!
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Don't you love that you woke up in Utah, and went to bed at WL after a great dinner & swim? Sounds like a great day, and it's only gonna get better...
I was thinking about that on our flight home. Four hours is a LONG flight, but it would take me 3 days of driving 12 hours a day to get to Disney. So four hours is not a big deal!
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Great Start Can't Wait to Read More About Your Trip!!
Thanks!
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Great first day in the bubble!
Thank you!
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Sounds like a wonderful first day!
It was fun (once we got there!)
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What a great first day! Sounds like you had a delicious meal at California Grill.
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October 1 was Elizabeth Frances’ first birthday, and then Phillip’s 12th birthday was just a few days later. The weekend after Phillip’s birthday, Phil’s youngest sister got married, so our Friday, Saturday and Sunday prior to our leaving for Disney were insane and packed with family events. I thought I had the Monday-Friday before our trip pretty empty so I could get laundry done, shopping done, and the house in order. Not so. That week became insane as well. 
We had snow the week before, so William and Phillip’s soccer games were cancelled that week, meaning they were rescheduled for the week of the 10-14. So add two soccer games. Patrick competes in gymnastics, and their big team meeting was scheduled for another night. Phillip had a major book report due before we left, so we had to work on that. Elizabeth Frances had a check up. A friend who had just returned from a very disappointing trip to WDW for the 40th anniversary wanted us to come by for dinner. I had planned to run errands on Thursday, which is the day I have a sitter for Elizabeth Frances, and then come home and clean the house. But all the stress caught up with me and I had a terrible migraine and ended up going to bed very early that night. 
Friday was incredibly stressful, with finishing the cleaning, packing and getting ready. But I knew it would get done (it had to, really), and it did. 
Phil dropped us off so he could go park at the Park-n-Jet lot. The five of us waited in a very long security line for about 15 minutes, and then a TSA employee saw us and directed us to the “Special Needs” line because we had a stroller. There was no wait in this line and we were immediately at the front. 
It was VERY tempting, and if it had been Phil & I traveling alone we totally would have done it, but since we had the kids we didn’t take advantage. Our flight left right on time. Many of the kids I don’t think had ever flown before because a lot of them screamed like they were on a roller coaster when we took off. 
It was annoying, though, because I was trying to get Elizabeth Frances to fall asleep, so when the kids screamed, she woke right up. It was a very uneventful flight; we had individual TV screens on our seats so we were able to watch TV. Kids watched movies or played their DS; I played Monopoly on my iPad and rewatched Flight of the Conchords. Elizabeth Frances slept for maybe an hour of our 4 hour flight; when she woke up she watched Spongebob Squarepants which really surprised me since she doesn’t watch TV normally.
We made it just in time for our reservation, but waited to be seated until 8:15. By this time, the kids were exhausted and very hungry. They weren’t necessarily misbehaving, but doing things like laying on the floor which isn’t exactly appropriate. 
For dessert I had the Valrhona Chocolate Cake, which, to be honest, wasn’t as good as I remember. I remember the cake being served warm, and this one wasn’t. We were able to watch Wishes from our window, which was beautiful. The boys loved it. We tried to catch the ferry back to the WL at 9:45, but again the one going to the WL was completely packed and was a minimum 30 minute wait for the next one 
, so we caught the ferry going to FW then to WL. The captain of this ferry tried to get everyone on. It was very cramped but so worth it! We got back to the room at about 10:20, which is when the WL ferry would have been coming back. Phil took the boys to go swim, and I took Elizabeth Frances with my parents to go get our mugs. Elizabeth Frances did NOT want to go to sleep and kept waking up every time I tried to put her down in the Port-A-Crib. She finally fell asleep for good at about 11. Phil returned with the boys shortly after. I got Will in bed, then left to get some bottled water. I ordered our room service for the next morning, and we were all in bed by 11:30. 
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