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Old 10-22-2009, 10:39 AM   #1
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What do you do if the teacher is wrong?

Unfortunately, I've been confronted with this more than once, and I still don't know how to handle it.

Most recently, I was volunteering in DD's classroom (on a project that had nothing to do with the lesson at hand -- I was in the back of the room trying to be unobtrusive). The class was discussing a book about Amelia Earhardt and Eleanor Roosevelt, and the concept of a "first lady." One of the kids thought it meant Mrs. Roosevelt was "the first lady to live in the White House." In the process of correcting that, the teacher said that "the first president's wife to live in the White House was Martha Washington."

Umm... no. The White House wasn't done when Washington was President. John and Abigail Adams would have been the first couple to live there. (We won't go into the issues of when it got the name "White House" or when the term "First Lady" was first used -- even I'll admit that's a bit much!) DD is in 4th grade, and we're history buffs. DD knew that Washington never lived there.

I didn't know what to do! What would youi do? Correct the teacher on the side? Let it go -- but tell your own kid the truth at home? In this case it was side information, but what if the info is likely to show up on a test? Does it matter?

Last year, DD was reading a book about Washington DC that was full of misinformation. It said the Washington Monument was finished in the 1830's (construction actually stopped during the Civil War), referred to President "James McKinley" (DD looked puzzled and said "I thought his name was William") and had a third error I can't remember now. I suggested to the teacher that they might want to find a new book, but I was told since it was used for reading not Social Studies it didn't matter!
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I'd say to tell the teacher in private. Say something like, "what you said got me thinking and I looked it up. Is it true that ..?" That way it doesn't seem like you're being critical, just curious.
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I was "that kid" who was always quick to correct the teacher and all it did was cause the teacher to take pleasure when I was wrong. It is a tough call but I would try to take heart that the inaccuracies are probably far and few between and that as they go deeper into a subject the real information will be clear to your kids. Especially with your influence as a parent!

I can see how telling a child in 1st or second grade depending on the child could cause them to connect the fact that Abigail Adams was the first to live in the White House to her being the first First Lady, Maybe the teacher made that call.

I do know how you feel because I really had a hard time with that growing up. "how can they be teaching if they don't know what I know!!" As I got older and actually taught I get it now. Someone can be a pillar of knowledge and not be able to teach. If you are happy with the rest of your childs education I wouldn't stress to much.
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My middle son has been a scientist since he was in diapers. He loved all things natural and when they did the "B" word week in kindergarten, his word was barbarusa. His kindergarten teacher, who was great, looked up the word and encourage Ben to keep her thinking.

When he was in 4th grade, they had to do a report on an animal. Ben chose some obscure tree frog. The teacher told him it wasn't an animal, but a creature. My son who could recite phyllums and classes from second grade and was quite aware that he knew more than she did. This has actually become a family joke and often recited by my brother-in-law, who is also a scientist.

This teacher made lots of errors in her information and my boys were the ones who brought the errors to our attention. We would just make sure our kids had it right and ignore the rest.

If it's elementaryschool, I'd give the teacher some slack. They are not subject specialist and often don't have a great deal of depth to their knowlege, especially if it was an area that wasn't of interest to them

If it's high school, I'd write a note and kindly correct them. It may have just been a mistake and the teacher will know to correct it next time.

We also encouraged all out kids to let the teacher know if they thought the teacher presented mis-information. They had to do it politely and in a way that would not embarrass the teacher. All three got quite good at it. And remember some "facts" are truly correct, lots of others are subject to interpretation.

I've got to say, however, that all three of my children have found numerous factual information errors at EPCOT. My DD's pleasure from the Spaceship Earth has been diminished by her need for correct information/
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I'd let her know that you were concerned about it. Honestly, I've always felt that if a teacher gives incorrect information and is not corrected - this produces children who are ignorant.
Doesn't mean I'd be mean about it. I'd just take her aside and let her know you were concerned about it, and since you're a history buff you wanted to let her know. Might be a fun thing to find out where the presidents lived before the White House was constructed!! Might be too much to mention that DC wasn't always the capital, though!
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I've got to say, however, that all three of my children have found numerous factual information errors at EPCOT. My DD's pleasure from the Spaceship Earth has been diminished by her need for correct information/
OOO - really? What are they? Inquiring minds want to know.
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I am not quite sure what I would do, but I have a feeling I may have to figure it out before the end of this school year . . . DD's Language Arts and Reading teacher (3rd grade) can't even spell DD's name and has said some pretty off the wall things so far this year.

Luckily, DD is becoming one who will call her teacher out in a way by raising her hand and saying "But I thought . . . "
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I'd say something to the teacher on the side in private. I like the approach about it getting you thinking and then looking it up.
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I would say something to her on the side If it was something that affected his grade I would have said something right then to her.

Last year in first grade Luke was marked-off for an error in an essay he wrote. In the essay he had written the word 'vacuum.' She red-penned it, wrote 'vacume' and even went as far to tell him that there are no words in the English language with two 'u's together
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I'll have to ask my DD about what's wrong in Spcaeship Earth but I know one thing is that they attribute the first writing to the wrong civilization. She pointed out a few other things, but I long ago learned my children are much smarter than I am and can retain much more.

They and my scientist brother in law also felt that lots of the information in Body Wars and other exhibits in that pavillion was out of date.

I know all three kids feel that Ellen Energy Adventure slants information in favor of fossill fuels (sponsored by an oil company) and again reflects the age of the exhibit.
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I was always the "Hermione Granger" of my group in school. Most of me teachers had no problem if we pointed out information that was misrepresented, as long as we did it in a polite manner.
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As a teachers kid, and having taught myself as well, I can tell you there are a lot of less than astute teachers entering the field. My mother claimed the 3 teachers in the grade below her were the bane of her exitstence becuase they constantly misrepresented facts and were simply uninformed on many things. She said they would "wing it" way to much instead of prepare to teach a lesson.
However, I must say, that teachers have it rough these days. No Child Left Behind takes excessive amounts of time to chart and IEP all of the students. Preparing for state achievement tests has become way to important, and the teachers have way too much paperwork. So preparing 'extra' information for a lesson is a big task.
If its in the lower grades, let it go for now. But by the 5th grade, these things are gonna stick, and I would be making sure of accurate info for 5th grade and over.
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Unfortunately, I've been confronted with this more than once, and I still don't know how to handle it.

Most recently, I was volunteering in DD's classroom (on a project that had nothing to do with the lesson at hand -- I was in the back of the room trying to be unobtrusive). The class was discussing a book about Amelia Earhardt and Eleanor Roosevelt, and the concept of a "first lady." One of the kids thought it meant Mrs. Roosevelt was "the first lady to live in the White House." In the process of correcting that, the teacher said that "the first president's wife to live in the White House was Martha Washington."

Umm... no. The White House wasn't done when Washington was President. John and Abigail Adams would have been the first couple to live there. (We won't go into the issues of when it got the name "White House" or when the term "First Lady" was first used -- even I'll admit that's a bit much!)

I didn't know what to do! What would youi do? Correct the teacher on the side? Let it go -- but tell your own kid the truth at home? In this case it was side information, but what if the info is likely to show up on a test? Does it matter?

Last year, DD was reading a book about Washington DC that was full of misinformation. It said the Washington Monument was finished in the 1830's (construction actually stopped during the Civil War), referred to President "James McKinley" (DD looked puzzled and said "I thought his name was William") and had a third error I can't remember now. I suggested to the teacher that they might want to find a new book, but I was told since it was used for reading not Social Studies it didn't matter!
I would let the first lady comment go. She made a mistake. She's an elementary school teacher, not specifically social studies--- she's probably teaching 5 subjects, you can't expect her to know everything. In that age, I hope my kids are learning basic correct info, and reading, writing, math--- knowing which first lady lived in the white house--- I'll let the mistake go LOL.

The book would really have bothered me (especially being a former social studies teacher), and I would have gotten in touch with the teacher about that, and I wouldn't have liked the answer they gave you, and probably would have pursued it further.
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Last year in first grade Luke was marked-off for an error in an essay he wrote. In the essay he had written the word 'vacuum.' She red-penned it, wrote 'vacume' and even went as far to tell him that there are no words in the English language with two 'u's together
Oh--- that would have bothered me more than the first lady mistake LOL.
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