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PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.

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Old 03-10-2008, 10:59 PM   #1
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The flip side of the coin.

Ok we all know the best guide book around! Passporter of course. But what guide book did you get that turned out to be a waste of time and money?? Or maybe a map that was not good when actually being used? Anybody??
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:01 PM   #2
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Oh, that ebook from the former cast member. I can't remember her name. I bought it on eBay. Big waste of money!
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Old 03-10-2008, 11:19 PM   #3
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Unofficial Guide to WDW. All it really said (for $15.00) was : to get your short child on a ride, put him/her in shoes with thick soles, and spike/fluff his/her hair.
Boy - that was great advice. Cheat the system and sneak your child on a ride they are not tall enough to use the safety restraints!!
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I haven't bought it but having borrowed it from the library I have to say that I think Birnbaum's guide (the Disney sanctioned and approved guidbook) is an absolute waste of time, money, paper and ink. I looked at the Unofficial Guide as well and thought it was overwhelming and intimidating.
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Darcie, I completely agree. I can't remember the name of that mess, but I was sent a copy for free and still wanted my money back!!!

LMAO!! Theresa from now on I am going to call you Tall Hair!!!

I kinda like the Birnbaum Guide, but don't get too upset with me. I also think Paris Hilton is the greatest actress this country has ever had!!!
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Birnbaum's.... Like a Disney Travel Phone representative, they'll give you all the facts, but absolulety no opinions.
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The worst one I've ever BOUGHT? Birnbaum's By Kids for Kids. Dd (6yo) barely looked at it and it's the only WDW book I own that I don't know where it is! ...that includes my 1999 Passporter!

I do have lots of books I love though!
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I don't have any Disney books other than PP! Guess I'll keep it that way. I did, though, look through Birnbaum's when DD was planning our first trip. I like PP better.
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Birnbaum's. All fact and no opinions good or bad of anything.
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The Dog Lovers Guide to Boston was a big waste of money. It listed all these restaurants that had outside patios you could eat with your dog IN BOSTON...but when I visited several none of them allowed dogs on the patio? It was nice to have a list of the dog friendly beaches on the Cape (From The Dog Lovers Guide to New England) but most of the beaches only allow dogs in the cooler months. Kinda of a waste since I was there in June. Also they failed to mention the one dog park in Boston Common WASN'T FENCED.
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I have always kinda liked Birnbaums. I am very much out numbered here though I think.
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Oh, that ebook from the former cast member. I can't remember her name. I bought it on eBay. Big waste of money!
OMGosh... I wasted money on that thing too! I do have to say that it wouldn't have been such a bad book if there weren't books like PassPorter out there to throw it into SUCH a terrible light. It had decent info, but none of it was complete, none of it was new, and NONE of it was info that I couldn't have gotten myself from just a couple of days on the PassPorter boards.

That said, Disney on a Dime didn't have any "earth-shatteringly" original information, but it was a decent book. I haven't bought the Unofficial Guide since the first one I got in '02. The Kim Wiley book (Disney World with Kids) was another good book, but I only have the '02 one.

Seriously, once I found the PassPorter, all of the others are thrown in the shade by its superiority. It's not only extremely well-organized (making it easy to use as a constant reference source), but the PassPockets and the other organizational tools are superb and work trip after trip after trip. I have upgraded my PP with every new edition.

Add to that the membership in the PassPorter Club and you get access to all the ebooks and special worksheets to make the PP an even better guide book.

The others should just give up and go home!
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PS - I do like the Birbaum For Kids By Kids book, but only as a "prep" book for kids I'm traveling with on their first vacation. It gives them a good overview so they know a little about the parks. I don't expect them to come away with any serious planning info, just a taste of what they'll see.
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I bought the Birnbaums Kids book, for DGS Skyler for his first visit, he loved it. He carried it with him the whole month before we went...... Then DDIL helped in fill in the blanks at the back.

I agree the Birnbaums guide all facts no opinions....

The Unofficial Guide is pretty funny, but it still can't beat my Passporter!!!! I love my pockets!!!!!! and now I can't live without them on my trips!!!
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PS - I do like the Birbaum For Kids By Kids book, but only as a "prep" book for kids I'm traveling with on their first vacation. It gives them a good overview so they know a little about the parks. I don't expect them to come away with any serious planning info, just a taste of what they'll see.
I prefer skipping the Birnbaum book and going directly to Guide to the Magic for Kids. Gives more/better info and then has all the cool activities (stickers, flags to color in, journal, etc.) to do as well!
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