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We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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12-04-2006, 05:08 PM
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Community Rank: Legend 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indiana , USA
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No, that\'s not okay!
While I was in class, DD Kathryn (all of 13.5 yrs.) called me. Wanted to know if I thought it was okay for an 8th grade girl to date a SENIOR boy!
"Well, honey, are you the girl?"
"Yes"
"Then, NO! The answer is NO!"
Seems a senior boy has been flirting with her, and she wanted to know what her boundaries were. He hadn't asked her or said anything untoward, she just wanted to know for future reference.
Maybe that 10 yr. gap between DH and I makes her think it's okay.
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12-04-2006, 06:49 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Cypress....Deep in Southern Illinois, close enough to see the Kentucky blue grass
Posts: 9,546
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Re: No, that\'s not okay!
You are correct she is too young at that age for that kind of gap. With age comes wisdom.
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12-05-2006, 07:54 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Northern New England
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Re: No, that\'s not okay!
I was reviewing the staturory rape statutes the other day, and in our state, one criteria is that if one person is between 13 and 16 and there is more than 5 years difference, sexual contact is considered sexual assault. The age difference is three years for sexual intercourse and it is a felony, not a misdemeanor.
Even our legislature recognized that relationships when between 13-16 should be between teens close in age.
I even think 2 years difference is too much for someone in middle school.
Diane
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12-05-2006, 09:38 AM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 3,958
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Re: No, that\'s not okay!
Well, personally, I think 13.5 is too young to date anybody, much less a senior.
But, yes, you are right, that is waaay too big an age difference!
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12-05-2006, 10:43 AM
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Community Rank: Legend Extraordinaire 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: New York, NY
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Re: No, that\'s not okay!
You are definitely right
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12-05-2006, 11:01 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Kissimmee, FL
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Re: No, that\'s not okay!
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Well, personally, I think 13.5 is too young to date anybody, much less a senior.
But, yes, you are right, that is waaay too big an age difference!
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I agree with that!! I could not date until I was 16 which is VERY fair!
I dated at 25 y/o when I was 18 (mom thought he was 21). We were in two different places in life so the relationship only lasted a year.
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12-05-2006, 11:10 AM
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But why is the rum gone?
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Needville, Texas
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Posts: 12,286
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Re: No, that\'s not okay!
I agree a bit too young for that age gap right now.
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12-05-2006, 11:53 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: the Burbs outside of Philadelphia
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Posts: 12,093
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Re: No, that\'s not okay!
I think 13.5 would be old enough to go out with groups her own age but to date a senior while still in Middle School is out of the question. You have to wonder why a senior would be interested in a girl in Middle School in the first place????????
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12-05-2006, 05:52 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Florida
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Re: No, that\'s not okay!
I must be from the dark ages. I cannot believe that a 13.5 year old dates anyone. Maybe my definition of dating is something else though. Is it when a girl and a guy go out alone somewhere? [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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12-05-2006, 06:29 PM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Virginia - a day's drive to WDW
Posts: 3,317
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Re: No, that\'s not okay!
You're a good mom. My mom let me go out w/ a 16 yo when I was 12, which as you can guess turned out to be a VERY BAD idea [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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12-05-2006, 07:05 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indiana , USA
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Re: No, that\'s not okay!
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I must be from the dark ages. I cannot believe that a 13.5 year old dates anyone. Maybe my definition of dating is something else though. Is it when a girl and a guy go out alone somewhere? [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Oh, she would never have been allowed to date, no matter how old the guy.
I actually just thought it was kind of funny. My girls can't date until they're at least 15. She was just wondering IF this guy asked. They're doing nothing but being a little friendly and flirting. I see nothing wrong with that. this is a VERY small school - (602 kids from 3yr.old to 12th grade) and there is NEVER a chance for the kids to go unsupervised.
And, DH and I do all drop off and pick up. There is an adult member of the administration to meet the kids at the door and to say goodbye every night. So, no chance to do ANYTHING inappropriate. Thus, I think it's just innocent flirting.
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12-05-2006, 09:48 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Florida
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Re: No, that\'s not okay!
Being "friendly and flirting" I totally understand. We even did that back in the dark ages! 
I am sorry if I sounded like I was questioning your daughter's situation. I was not. It just seems like lots of kids are growing up way too fast these days and I think it is kind of sad. Sounds like you have things totally under control. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] The fact that your daughter called you to discuss this is proof that you have a great relationship with her. Keep up the good work!  |
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12-05-2006, 10:07 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indiana , USA
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Re: No, that\'s not okay!
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Being "friendly and flirting" I totally understand. We even did that back in the dark ages!
I am sorry if I sounded like I was questioning your daughter's situation. I was not. It just seems like lots of kids are growing up way too fast these days and I think it is kind of sad. Sounds like you have things totally under control. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] The fact that your daughter called you to discuss this is proof that you have a great relationship with her. Keep up the good work!
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I agree, it does seem as if kids grow up too fast nowadays. One of the reasons my girls are not allowed to listen to certain singers (even if they are on the Disney Channel) or wear certain clothes.
Little girls need to be little girls. But, they are informed little girls! (my 8 yr. old evidently told the counselor at school a thing or two while the class was doing its monthly sex-ed. discussion - the counselor called to congratulate me!!!) |
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12-05-2006, 10:42 PM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
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Re: No, that\'s not okay!
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Little girls need to be little girls. But, they are informed little girls! (my 8 yr. old evidently told the counselor at school a thing or two while the class was doing its monthly sex-ed. discussion - the counselor called to congratulate me!!!)
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I fully agree with this statement! I moniter every shopping trip, clothing purchase, phone call, and anything else my kids do. If I wouldn't let a 30 yo wear it out in public, I'm certinally not letting my 10 yo do it!!!
As far as the boy goes, I dated a 25 yo when I was 16, so regardless of how I feel now, I may not be the best person to ask. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/roflmao.gif[/img]
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