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Old 08-04-2006, 11:49 AM   #1
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Question about kids\' multiple surgeries - kind of long

This is a 2-part question for the parents out there who have had kids go through many surgeries. (I know there are a few of you.)

My 4 year old DS has scoliosis and just got out of the hospital after a surgery to lengthen the growing rod that he has in his back. It was supposed to be a simple procedure, but it did not go as planned. When the doctor made the adjustment on the lower part of the rod something happened with the top part's placement. When they looked at his post-op x-ray, he noticed the top screw looked like it had moved slightly. Since that screw is so close to his spinal cord (and he didn't want to risk paralysis) they took him back to the operating room and had to remove the entire rod until he could get the right equipment ordered to make sure it stays where it should. So here are my questions:

First, how have your kids handled being in the hospital so many times? Do they remember them all? This is David's 3rd time.

Second, how do you handle it? I did okay with the first 2 because I know they were helping him. But after this last one when they took out the rod that was helping, I feel like he went through the first 2 for nothing.

We are waiting for his follow up on Tuesday August 8 to see how soon he needs to back and have the rod put back in.

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We haven't had the multiple surgeries, but my now 10yo has spent several night hooked up to stomach pumps, IVs, CT scans, etc. She did have her tonsils/adenoids out. Yes, she does remember every bit, but I think that's part of who she is (she remembers what she ate for breakfast the day we brought youngest DD home from the hospital and she was 2 1/2! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/jawdrop.gif[/img]) She's a trooper, but the last time, the tube going down into her stomach finally made her cry. It was heart-wrenching. I tend to put my brain in what DH calls "commander in chief" mode so that I keep it together and I can focus on DD getting better. I get angry/frustrated when something is unnecessarily done or the docs stand there with no answers, but I'm a "what's next" person...try not to dwell on what's happened and keep a focus on what's next. It's also important for me to remember that medicine is not God, and there are mistakes and mysteries, not just miracles and as long as we are all on the same page and making forward progress in the scheme of things, it will be OK.
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Many pixies coming your (and David's) way! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img]

Those first two surgeries were not wasted. Think of all the time he has spent with is spine getting lined up since that first one. And even if the second didn't work out as planned....it may be that it was what caught the defect in the upper part of the rod...not what caused it. That's thinking positive.

My sister had several surgeries as a little girl. The only thing that she really remembers is the beeping noise of the monitors. It made it really hard for her to watch The Six Million Dollar Man years later because of the beeping in the opening credits of the show.
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If your son's surgeries are at a Children's hospital, they will likely have child life workers who assist the chidlren in understanding the surgeries, coping with them and also keeping occupied while in the hospital. If not talk to social services about a referral to help you and him through this difficult time.
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Hi Kim,
My older DD Samantha has had 25 surgeries, and spent a total of about 5 years in hospitals all over the country. (in spurts of anywhere between 5 days and 9 months)

She also had scoliosis (caused by a spinal cord injury), and had the rods, had them revised, had them removed, had them replaced, revised, revised, removed, replaced (she kept having severe problems with them actually coming unattached and causing wounds) If I had the rods to do all over again, I'd still do it.

7. Try to make it fun. If he's going to be in hospital for longer than 2 or 3 days, put up christmas lights (makes it cheerful for the staff too), put up a poster of his favorite Disney character, bring a pillow case from home. Also and this may be the most important thing: Make FRIENDS with the staff. Bring donuts in the AM, order a pizza for them, bring them flowers just for the heck of it. Thank them for anything and everything, and make sure they know you appreciate their care of your son. They will be more tempted to check on him and spend time and be friendly if they know how much you appreciate them. This will make him happier, and not scared of them. (we still keep in touch with some of DD's original nurses - 16 years later)

But, your ? is not about that, it's about handling it. Samantha was 6 when she was injured. She remembers being in the hospital, but not every detail. She took it all in stride, and looks back on it with fondness (weird kid).
She has a stuffed Wrinkles dog that my dad gave her years before her injury, and she has taken him to every hospitilazation. Her surgeons used to actually take him with her into surgery, and then set him just outside and give him to her immediately after wards. That helped, a familiar "friend".
Other things that helped:
1. We made sure that she knew she was there for the Dr.s to help her, and the nurses were there to take care of her. We NEVER made her feel as if she had to have us there to be okay.

2. Likewise, we made sure she knew she had the right to ask questions, to say she wanted to wait for a "stick" until mom or dad could be there, and that if there were a nurse or aide that she just didn't like, she could (nicely) ask that that person not take care of her.

3. We never hid anything from her. She knew at 6 what all her meds were, what they did, what her surgeries were, etc. It's her that had to live through all this, it just wouldn't be fair to suddenly one day say "Hey, you're having surgery tomorrow".

4. Our DD's friends, cousins, and siblings came to the hospital to visit. We made sure there were things at the bedside for them all to play with like Uno cards, barbies, play-doh, beads for stringing, etc.

5. We never acted like anything she was going through was a big deal. She has told me since that she thought everyone had all this stuff, since we didn't sit around and cry and say things like "Why us, why our baby?" My more often question was "Why not us?" - what makes me or my daughter so special that I think we should be spared pain and heartache over someone else. OH, I cried and screamed, but I did that when she wasn't around.

6. YOU need to take a break from the hospital sometimes. It gets too stressful after a while if you never just go out and enjoy yourself, and your DS will pick up on it. My DSis and her now DH used to come to the hospital every week or two from out of state, just so that DH and I could go out to a movie, sleep at home, and actually take a shower in our own bath.

Sorry my answer is so long, but I tried to cover it all. If you have any other questions, just PM me.
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Stefanie has had 30+ surgeries (so many we've quit counting). She does remember some of them and vows now she will never have any more. Now that she is older we have had to be very open with her about what is going to happen and why she has to have the surgery. As far as it goes for the Mom, at for me, it never gets any easier to allow them to wheel her away.
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