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We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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05-16-2006, 12:15 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Massachusetts
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What to do (family/vacation dilemma)
My brother-in-law (DH's brother) is going on a cruise for his honeymoon, and has invited the family to join them. They have just set a wedding date for April of next year. Originally the wedding was going to be in July, but it was a day that DH could not get off from work (he works at a power plant, and they are very strict). My sister-in-law to be wanted to switch it to the previous weekend, which was fine with us we just wouldn't be able to go on the cruise (again, it was the week that DH couldn't get off from work). My MIL told her that we wouldn't be able to go on the cruise that week and she said "Oh well, I can't change everything to make everyone happy" in front of me (her and DH aren't the best of friends [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]). Well, to make a long story short my MIL really wants us to go on the cruise so I think she pressured them to switch the date completely. DH doesn't even want to go on the cruise, and told my MIL that several times. Now she keeps asking me about it, and I am caught in the middle of this.
Here is the problem. DH told them that we cannot afford to go (which is true). However, we have a trip to Disney planed for October (that everyone knows about, it's been planned for awhile). How can we say we can't afford to go on the cruise, but we are going to Disney? We definitely can't afford to do both so it has to be one or the other. Do we cancel our trip to WDW to make MIL happy and keep peace with the family?
I apologize if this is confusing. I am so frustrated and stressed by this!!!!!
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05-16-2006, 12:18 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Pennsylvania
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Re: What to do (family/vacation dilemma)
I think you can justify it. You are taking your daughter on her first trip to Disney. That's where you guys want to go with her. Would she go on the cruise with you? Even if she is, I'm sure she would enjoy Disney more. You really shouldn't have to justify, but if asked, explain that the Disney trip is for Isabella, and you have planned it for a long time. I, personally wouldn't cancel the Disney trip.
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05-16-2006, 12:23 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Lansdale, PA
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Re: What to do (family/vacation dilemma)
Where do you want to go? I know like I have to ask that question. I would keep the Disney trip and just tell MIL and the family that you will not going on the cruise. There's plenty of time to do that. There's just 1 time that Disney will be not to be missed with Miss Isabella! You have already planned the trip to Disney and now they want you to go on the cruise. Go enjoy the wedding and don't worry about a family honeymoon...
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05-16-2006, 12:29 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2001
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Re: What to do (family/vacation dilemma)
Just tell them you can't afford the cruise because you've had this Disney trip in the works for a while now. I think Isabella will appreciate Disney more than a cruise at her tender age.
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05-16-2006, 12:31 PM
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Re: What to do (family/vacation dilemma)
I agree telling them you can't swing it financially, as you already have money invested in your already planned October trip. It sounds like your DH doesn't want to go, so I'd just try to bow out of it! Good luck Michelle [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img]
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05-16-2006, 12:47 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
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Location: Longfellow's "Jewel by the Sea"
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Re: What to do (family/vacation dilemma)
I know what a tight spot you're in, hope it works out! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] I don't like it when others pressure me into expensive and time-consuming plans. And even though I'd jump at the chance to cruise go on a cruise w/my family I think I'd rather just spend my honeymoon with one other person. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/082502yes_prv.gif[/img] I hope you can just tell MiL that you've had this Disney trip planned for a while. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/luck.gif[/img]
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05-16-2006, 12:55 PM
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Community Rank: Trekker 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Re: What to do (family/vacation dilemma)
It sounds like that no matter what your decision is your MIL won't be happy. I would simply explain that you have had this trip booked and paid for and you simply do not have the money to take the cruise.
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05-16-2006, 12:57 PM
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Community Rank: Legend Extraordinaire 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: New York, NY
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Re: What to do (family/vacation dilemma)
Keep the Disney trip. It's what you want to do
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05-16-2006, 01:05 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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Re: What to do (family/vacation dilemma)
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It sounds like that no matter what your decision is your MIL won't be happy. I would simply explain that you have had this trip booked and paid for and you simply do not have the money to take the cruise.
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05-16-2006, 01:36 PM
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Community Rank: Navigator 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Guilford, CT
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Re: What to do (family/vacation dilemma)
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It sounds like that no matter what your decision is your MIL won't be happy. I would simply explain that you have had this trip booked and paid for and you simply do not have the money to take the cruise.
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This sounds like what I would do.
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05-16-2006, 02:07 PM
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Location: Philadelphia
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Re: What to do (family/vacation dilemma)
I'd keep the Disney trip and tell the family about the no-go on the cruise. If they want you to do something that THEY want you to do, then they should offer to pay for it.
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05-16-2006, 02:17 PM
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Harrisburg, PA
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Re: What to do (family/vacation dilemma)
What a stressful decision to have to make! I have to agree with everyone else...I would plan on taking the Disney trip since you have had it planned for quite some time now. Maybe just explain that you can't afford to do both and that you already have the money set aside for your Disney trip. It's their honeymoon anyway...I am thinking that the focus will be on the two of them and hopefully they won't be too concerned with the fact that you and DH won't be joining them. It seems like it is your MIL who will be the most upset. Hopefully she can understand that you can't afford to do both and that Isabella will have more fun at Disney than she would on a cruise. Good luck...keep us posted!
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05-16-2006, 02:32 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: second star to the right
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Re: What to do (family/vacation dilemma)
Is this the Bermuda cruise?? There is FAR FAR more for her at WDW than a Bermuda cruise plus the crossing to Bermuda is where a lot of cruisers get sick so if you have any motion sickness issues, you could use that reason alone. I don't think NCL offers much of anything in the way of actvities for her age.
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05-16-2006, 02:46 PM
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Community Rank: Passenger 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Indiana
Posts: 35
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Re: What to do (family/vacation dilemma)
I'll be the oddball (I'm obviously the wdw neophyte here) and suggest you drop the Disney plans and attend the cruise with family. Events like this don't/probably won't happen often in a lifetime. A cruise ship offers lots of space to escape those you don't want to be around and cruises can be a lot of fun. Maybe this is just one of those times you suck it up and take one for the team. Who knows, maybe it will be a good opportunity for the family to bond with the new in-law. It beats the alternative of making her feel isolated right from the start. Whatever you decide, I wish you the best.
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05-16-2006, 04:22 PM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: LITH, Illinois
Concierge Level: 1
Posts: 3,205
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Re: What to do (family/vacation dilemma)
[img]/ubb/images/graemlins/fairy2.gif[/img] How horrible that you were put in the middle of this. I would go to WDW! I wouldn't want to go on a cruise with a honeymoon couple. I think your family will have more fun at WDW.
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