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Am looking to give my DD a trip for Christmas and found some unbelievably low fares on Discount airlines.
The two that come up most often are WOW and TAP. Both have reviews ranging from good to bad. I know nothing but the flight is free but it would be a short trip so luggage shouldn't be a huge issue and if we fly the red eye, who needs food or entertainment?
I am aware of what isn't included. The difference is about $200.00 flight. It would be a short -4 night trip. I will of course, crunch the numbers before clicking.
Interestingly, I just listened to part of an NPR program on "budget economy", which United, Delta, and American will all be offering.
I am a huge fan of SWA and Jet Blue but according this program, they are not super budget.
I just flew Portland OR to LAX and back for under 80 total on Spirit. It was a completely fine experience. We didn't book a carry-on bag, and were allowed a "personal item" with specific dementions, basically a large purse.
We wore the same outfit all 3 days, and just took the bare essentials, and I had no complaints. Yes, flying the super-budgets come with their inconveniences (like having to wait on the tarmack for a gate to deplane, for example) but the staff were still great, and the experience was completely fine.
If you know what you are getting, I think they are a great option. If you are trying to make tight connections or are traveling with luggage, probably would do better elsewhere.
It is a short trip but the budget airline is half the price of the non budget one. I could save several hundred dollars even if I paid for one suitcase.
When I read reviews, the main complaints were what extras were not included. I fly regularly and seldom use the 'extras". I prefer a good book to watching anything and never find a snack that fits in with my eating preferences. ONe leg would be an overnight flight so hopefully will sleep and not need anything.
Still looking at options.
KimmyAnn-you are the person the airlines are looking for-someone who puts price over getting a meal or a movie.
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On short flights (anything 2 hrs or under) I really don't care what airline I fly with (as long as it is safe, of course). Seriously, I'd sit on the floor if I had to
For longer flights, though, we choose the airline carefully and usually spring for premium economy.
One thing to consider is how many flights they have and how important your trip is. Some of those airlines only have one flight a day or maybe not even that often. What happens if yours gets cancelled? Will you have to wait for another of their flights, or will they try to book you on another airline?
I've never hear do the two airlines you listed; guess they don't fly in my area. I might fly Allegiant or Spirit or similar if it was a time of year where you don't have to worry about weather issues or it was not imperative I get to my destination that day or the next, like for a cruise.
I've pretty much decided to spring for the full service airline. If it were only me, I would go with the super economy, but it is a gift for DD, so I will pay the extra.
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I'm not familiar with WOW and TAP, but we flew Norwegian in Sept of this year and were able to get just under $500 round trip, direct from Orlando to Oslo. That price even included their "premium service" which was choosing your seat in advance, checking a bag, and being served 2 meals in flight. It was honestly one of the best flights I've ever been on. New, gorgeous Dreamliner planes, extremely friendly staff, and actually good food! Idk if Norwegian is considered "budget" (compared to other airlines we priced it was less than half as much, so I definitely consider it budget), but I would be thrilled to fly with them again any time it is possible.
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Thanks Ashli. I think when you go in knowing what you are going to get, you will be satisfied. This would be an overnight flight so I am not really concerned with meals, entertainment etc.
Thanks Ashli. I think when you go in knowing what you are going to get, you will be satisfied. This would be an overnight flight so I am not really concerned with meals, entertainment etc.
Maybe we should go to Norway instead.
Ours was an overnight flight too, but it was much longer so we were given dinner shortly after take off and breakfast shortly before landing.
I haven't been to Iceland, but I will say that Norway is one of the most beautiful countries I have ever seen. If you go though, definitely get out of Oslo & head for the fjord areas. You don't even have to go very far (we drove to a small fjord village about 4.5 hrs from Oslo, but the scenery was absolutely gorgeous starting less than an hour out of the city), but it makes a world of difference. With this trip, Norway definitely jumped to my #1 Euro country to recommend visiting. (Although it is a VERY expensive country. Oslo is often considered the most expensive city in Europe.)
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I haven't been to Iceland, but I will say that Norway is one of the most beautiful countries I have ever seen. If you go though, definitely get out of Oslo & head for the fjord areas. You don't even have to go very far (we drove to a small fjord village about 4.5 hrs from Oslo, but the scenery was absolutely gorgeous starting less than an hour out of the city), but it makes a world of difference. With this trip, Norway definitely jumped to my #1 Euro country to recommend visiting. (Although it is a VERY expensive country. Oslo is often considered the most expensive city in Europe.)
I'm glad you posted this, as I was wondering how you liked Norway. It is just a stunning country. We were fortunate to do a Norwegian fjords cruise and wow, the scenery!
Norway is hideously expensive. I remember how much food cost in Oslo and we visited there over 10 years ago. Mind you, Iceland isn't cheap either.
I'm glad you posted this, as I was wondering how you liked Norway. It is just a stunning country. We were fortunate to do a Norwegian fjords cruise and wow, the scenery!
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We had a wonderful time in Norway, Denmark, & Sweden, but my absolute favorite part of the trip was our time in Undredal (small fjord village near Flåm). It was just breathtaking, similar in a way to how I feel at the Grand Canyon. (Obviously very different scenery, but both so incredibly gorgeous and uninfluenced by man.)
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I'm not familiar with WOW and TAP, but we flew Norwegian in Sept of this year and were able to get just under $500 round trip, direct from Orlando to Oslo. That price even included their "premium service" which was choosing your seat in advance, checking a bag, and being served 2 meals in flight. It was honestly one of the best flights I've ever been on. New, gorgeous Dreamliner planes, extremely friendly staff, and actually good food! Idk if Norwegian is considered "budget" (compared to other airlines we priced it was less than half as much, so I definitely consider it budget), but I would be thrilled to fly with them again any time it is possible.
I'm so happy to read this! I've been seeing some amazing fares on Norwegian to Europe. Time to start planning a trip!
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