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Old 12-14-2004, 11:15 PM   #1
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<font color="blue">Team # 1 Team in: <font color="green"> Freddy &amp; Kendra - Belle*, forever_amber

<font color="blue">Last Team in: <font color="red"> Don &amp; Mary Jean - whoSEZ, goofysdtr


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<font color="blue">Man this is getting good. Could Jonathan get any more obnoxious? I fear for Victoria when they get elimanated. </font>
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Old 12-15-2004, 12:35 AM   #2
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I agree. I keep waiting for the Amazing Race production team to have to intervene for Veronica's safety. Why does she stay with that loser.

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Old 12-15-2004, 02:24 AM   #3
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Re: Amazing Race 12/14

Did anyone else let out a huge gasp when he hit her (or her backpack, I guess it was)?

What got me was when Phil told him he needed to go and have a talk with Victoria . . . and Jonathan goes over and does nothing but yell at and berate her even more!!! I tell you what, if I were her, I would have stepped on that mat and told Phil that I was quitting the race and to send me home. Then, I would have turned around and knocked Jonathan out cold on national television!!! The man deserves that and so much more physical pain!!!
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I was amazed that Jonathan and Victoria were doing so well the last two episodes. Then Jonathan has to pull the stupid tack of dropping his backpack. Poor Victoria....I would have done the same thing she did.

What is it with him and being first? They've been at the top every time, first doesn't really matter until the last day! He is WAY too competitive and definitely has anger management problems.

Why couldn't Don and Mary Jean find the clue at the church? It didn't seem like anyone else had trouble there.

What would you have done? Brats or Beer? I would have probably chose Brats. Both seemed to go equally well for the contestants though. Surprising, because usually one choice ends of being harder than the other.

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I am still so disturbed about last night's episode. I couldn't fall asleep last night b/c I kept thinking about it and it was the first thing I thought of this morning. I also gasped when he pushed her. When they kept showing Phil I thought for sure he was going to tell them they couldn't continue the race b/c of his abuse. It just made me physically sick. I couldn't even enjoy the last few minutes of the show b/c I felt so ill.

Can you imagine what Jonathan's family must think watching this? How awful - unless they are the same way. But usually people don't notice how horrible they are until they see it on tape. I sincerely hope Victoria filed for divorce when they returned home.

On another note, I was very touched with Gus's reaction to the slave house. I was crying myself - that must have been truely emotional. I was glad to see every team took it seriously, too, and nobody rushed in, threw the rose and rushed out.

My favorite team is Kris &amp; Jon, even though Kris totally reminds me of Britney Spears.
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Jonathan is a complete a**.
He is a classic case of insecurity. I have no idea why Victoria is still with him.... unless he is $$$$ and she likes being rich. There really is no redeeming values in his body at all.
I was actually mad last night watching that show, and wanted to deck him.

Kendra is another one who doesn't have a nice bone in her body. Her comments to Bolo and about Africa were classless.
Her mouth may get her in trouble someday.
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I loved the way the other racers were willing to give The older couple $$. Wonderful!

Tina, I am with you, I felt quite sickened by the blatant abuse shown toward Victoria by Jonathan. I hope his business is suffering because of the way he has revealed himself on national television.
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I agree with everyone else about Jonathan and Victoria. I flinched when he hit her. I can't believe the "production" team hasn't stepped in and kicked them off. I don't feel bad for her, if she puts up with his crap then that's on her, but it's still uncomfortable to have to watch. I can't even begin to imagine how he treats her behind closed doors if this is how he conducts himself on live camera in front of millions of people.
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is Johnathan the one who said he had a Ferrari? then I would say yeah maybe she's with him for the money?
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is Johnathan the one who said he had a Ferrari? then I would say yeah maybe she's with him for the money?

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He did say he had a Ferrari as he walked up the hill to do the road block. He's coming across as a total jerk and I can't believe he hit her (or her backpack) at the mat. I also agree that she'll pay a huge price when they're eliminated because it will be all her fault they lose!

I'm also finding I don't really care for Kendra or Hayden. They're rude and both tend to treat their partners poorly.

Even though I am sad to see them go, I also picked the last place team. Now if we could only get rid of Jonathan, all would be well!
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Old 12-15-2004, 01:38 PM   #11
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I agree with everything everyone is saying about Jonathan as the survivor of an abusive relationship I know what it is like to be treated like Victoria. Sometimes it is not easy to just leave although it seems like it would be. I also thought Phil was going to step in and say more then he did. I hope the production team stepped in after and help Victoria out. There really needs to be a clause in the rules about emotional abuse and controlling behavior...although fights make for exciting television. Sadly it seems to all be for ratings!
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I bet that someone did have a talk with them about it. I don't think that Phil or the production people would leave it like that. There is so much that is filmed that we never see.

My DH said it would have been interesting if Victoria had left the backpack behind...it was stolen as she thought it would be...and his passport was in it. Then what would they have done?
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I was thinking that as well but yikes....how much more do you have to see? It seemed pretty black and white to me. Jonathan humiliating her and treating her like a 2 y/o and Victoria sobbing! Maybe she is a button pusher?? who knows...regardless Jonathan is a hot head who (like Beast) needs to control is temper!
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Phil Koeghan looked like he wanted to kick that guys butt. He should have.

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I finally got to watch the episode tonight. As one of my students has said, jonathon has issues.

I wonder when they watch themselves if he will see what an idiot he has been. Unfortunately I have a feeling he will see nothing wrong with his behavior.
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