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Old 05-25-2012, 07:04 AM   #1
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OKW help

So I am starting to question staying near the hospitality house and need some help from my fellow PP out there. I originally booked a 1bd for my dh, ds and dd for August not near the HH but then a HH opened up and I switched. Now I find out that these units only have one door to the bathroom. My kids are 9 and 14. I also wonder how busy the main pool gets? Yes my kids like to be involved with pool activities, but is it really crowed there. We usually stay at BLT but this is a surprise trip and we wanted a more laid back feel. I was thinking of calling back and requesting a room by a pool in the newer area's. I need thoughts please.... thanks
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We stayed there in October, near the HH. It was surprisingly quiet and the main pool was not crowded at all. Granted, it was not in August. The one-bedroom units at OKW have one bathroom with one door that opens from inside the master bedroom so your kids will have to come into the bedroom to use it.
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we have stayed there in May,sept,and dec. and pool never busy like other resorts
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We just got back from a stay at OKW. We were in a 2BR unit. All the 1 BR units access to the bathroom is through the bedroom. The main pool was not crowded at all when we were there
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Only the units from1-30 have the issue of entering the bathroom through the bedroom. It was subsequently "fixed" after those buildings to allow those heading to the bathroom to enter via the laundry room. This is only an issue for the one bedroom units. I agree --- it was a major oversight. We love the HH area but normally book a two-bedroom unit.
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Been to OKW many times and have never seen the pool crowded, even on a hot day. Most people spend their days in the parks or water parks when its hot.
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Just stayed there a couple weeks ago in a 1 BR and bathroom had 2 doors (1 through the master bedroom and 1 through the laundry room). We were in Bldg 45 on the river. We've stayed there twice in Bldg 45 & Bldg 46. Best spot in the resort and even though we had a car we still walked up to HH occasionally but sometimes drove.
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Nothing to say about the size of the room because I've only stayed in a studio - which I love btw. But we were there at the beginning of May (5-8) and the main pool area was crowded if you were looking to sit down! It was hard to find tables and chairs. There were a few chaise lounge chairs, but not many available. The pool was busy, but not over crowded. There are not a lot of shady areas in my opinion, if you like both sun and shade (thus looking for a table.). We always ask for HH area there because of mobility issues, and I will continue to in the future even though the pool was a bit of an issue for me this time around. It might have just been a fluke, but I've never had a problem getting a seat or table at any other pool area before, so this sort of stuck out.
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We've stayed not far from the HH and never saw the pool crowded. :
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I used to always request somewhere near the HH but now my favourite location is anywhere down 'the bottom right' near the South Point pool as it is just idyllic down there and you really are transported to another place.

My 9 year old loves it there too as she often has the pool to herself, even at busy times. Some evenings we walk up to the HH area and play tennis and Kat plays in the playground and then have a swim.

The main pool is fine and fun, and I haven't seen it crazy busy, but it is noisy and we much prefer being able to walk out of our villa to the quiet pool and have no problem getting a lounger and it not be a major hassle when we realise we have forgotten goggles, sun lotion, book etc, which we do lots.

I do feel a car is a definite advantage though. I would be more inclined to stay near the HH if I was relying on Disney transportation.
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Thanks everyone I'm still undecided but your experiences are helping!
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We always stay near Turtle Pond, or as Brent refers to it, "The back nine," because it's really quiet and the pool tends to be pretty quiet as well. The main pool isn't what I would consider overly crowded but it does get busy during peak times and there are lots of little kids because of the slide, etc. My kids are older and don't care as much about the slide. They'd rather be in a quieter space, so TP (or as someone else mentioned, South Point) is ideal for us.
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