Buying Points at Sold Out Resorts - PassPorter - A Community of Walt Disney World, Disneyland, Disney Cruise Line, and General Travel Forums
PassPorter.com
Award-winning travel guidebooks
Thank you to our forum sponsor:

   guidebooks   |   news   |   podcasts   |   boards   |   blog   |   worksheets   |   photos   |   articles   |   updates   |   register   |   follow us on


Forums Closed
As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.

So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.

Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.

And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.

We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm​. You made it all happen.

There are other changes as well.

Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:

We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.

It's time to move on and move forward.

PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.

But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.

So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.

And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.

That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!

If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.

So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!

Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!

Go Back   PassPorter - A Community of Walt Disney World, Disneyland, Disney Cruise Line, and General Travel Forums > PassPorter's Walt Disney World Resort (Florida) > Owning the Magic: Disney Vacation Club
Register


Welcome! We're happy you've found the PassPorter Community -- the friendliest place to plan your vacation to Walt Disney World, Disney Cruise Line, Disneyland, and the world in general! You are now viewing the PassPorter Message Board Community as a guest, which gives you limited access. As our guest, feel free to browse our messages by selecting the forum you want to visit from the list below.

To post messages and ask questions, join our FREE community today and you'll get access to tools and resources not available to guests, such as our vacation countown timers, "living" avatars, private messaging system, database searches, downloads, and a special PassPorter discount code. Registration is fast, simple, and completely free. Just click the Join Our Community link.

If you think you've already joined, log in below now. If you don't remember your member name or password, please visit our Member Name and Password Recovery page. You are also welcome to contact us.

Forum Sponsor: DVC By Resale
Learn Why PassPorter Recommends This Sponsor
 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-06-2013, 12:47 PM   #1
Thomhazel
Community Rank: Globetrotter
 
Thomhazel's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 3,288

Post Thanks / Like
Buying Points at Sold Out Resorts

Does anyone have experience of buying points at sold out DVC resorts? Now our plans for the next few years are crystallising we find we need another 80-120 points. (as if need were the right word!). We don't want to buy more AKV points as we have some already and we considered buying another resort resale but living in Paris and knowing we want to visit California more than once I don't want to be unable to book the Disney Collection so we definitely want to buy direct from Disney. I was originally thinking about waiting for GFV but what we would really like to buy would be some GCV points. We intend to ask our guide when we are over in February but is it a case of going on a wait list and taking whatever amount of points and use year come up or can you request something specific? We don't need more points now in fact buying in 2014 would be ideal. does anyone have any experience of waitlisting a sold out resort and did you get what you wanted eventually?
__________________
Scottish Hogmanay (with a stolen Picture)

My Countdown Counting down to: WDW, Disney Dream and Universal
Chillin at disney
Thomhazel is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2013, 12:56 PM   #2
tjkraz
Community Rank: Jetsetter
 
tjkraz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,739

Post Thanks / Like
Yes, DVC will sell you the additional points. Sometimes waiting for the points to come available is necessary. Just depends upon which resort and Use Year you are seeking.

As a rule, DVC will only sell you points in your existing Use Year. If the purchase is large enough they would probably relent and sell you a different Use Year but in doing so you face years of administrative headaches whenever trying to combine the points. They are not insurmountable issues but all things being equal it is MUCH more convenient to have all of your points linked under a single membership.
__________________
-- Tim

tjkraz is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2013, 02:17 PM   #3
trixiedixie
Community Rank: Globetrotter
 
trixiedixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: 1299 miles from WDW
Posts: 3,343

Post Thanks / Like
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjkraz View Post
Yes, DVC will sell you the additional points. Sometimes waiting for the points to come available is necessary. Just depends upon which resort and Use Year you are seeking.

As a rule, DVC will only sell you points in your existing Use Year. If the purchase is large enough they would probably relent and sell you a different Use Year but in doing so you face years of administrative headaches whenever trying to combine the points. They are not insurmountable issues but all things being equal it is MUCH more convenient to have all of your points linked under a single membership.
So really anyone looking to add points under resale or Disney should use same use year? wow, I didnt think it was that much of an issue.... I guess because I am always borrowing points.....

Buying thru Disney as they want to I see that as less of a problem but shopping for small contract (sold as soon as they hit the listings) thru resale just got tougher as my use year isnt very popular (March)....
trixiedixie is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2013, 03:05 PM   #4
chezp
PassPorter Message Board Manager
PassPorter Guide Author

Community Rank:
Legend VIP
 
chezp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Maidstone, Kent, UK
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 190,285

Post Thanks / Like
Quote:
Originally Posted by trixiedixie View Post
So really anyone looking to add points under resale or Disney should use same use year? wow, I didnt think it was that much of an issue.... I guess because I am always borrowing points.....

Buying thru Disney as they want to I see that as less of a problem but shopping for small contract (sold as soon as they hit the listings) thru resale just got tougher as my use year isnt very popular (March)....
We will only buy with the same Use Year, as then the points you buy are all held together and it's much easier to manage them. If it helps, August isn't a particularly popular year - either that or no-one ever really wants to sell through resale with August points....
__________________

Relaxing on board the Magic. The trip report for our back-to-back cruises on the Disney Magic has started!
My Countdown Counting down to: 2019
Happy New Year!
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous Trips21 trips to WDW, 6 to Disneyland in California, 9 to Disneyland Paris, 1 to Hong Kong Disneyland, 1 to Tokyo Disney, 1 to Aulani, 1 to Hilton Head, 2 to Vero Beach and 13 Disney cruises on the Magic, Wonder, Dream and Fantasy
chezp is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2013, 04:15 PM   #5
trixiedixie
Community Rank: Globetrotter
 
trixiedixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: 1299 miles from WDW
Posts: 3,343

Post Thanks / Like
Quote:
Originally Posted by chezp View Post
We will only buy with the same Use Year, as then the points you buy are all held together and it's much easier to manage them. If it helps, August isn't a particularly popular year - either that or no-one ever really wants to sell through resale with August points....
I am just thankful to know now....before we buy again...
trixiedixie is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2013, 08:58 PM   #6
tjkraz
Community Rank: Jetsetter
 
tjkraz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,739

Post Thanks / Like
Quote:
Originally Posted by trixiedixie View Post
So really anyone looking to add points under resale or Disney should use same use year? wow, I didnt think it was that much of an issue.... I guess because I am always borrowing points.....

Buying thru Disney as they want to I see that as less of a problem but shopping for small contract (sold as soon as they hit the listings) thru resale just got tougher as my use year isnt very popular (March)....
Adding-on direct through Disney...it's largely a moot point. And if you're willing to pay Disney's prices to add-on, it's doubtful you will be waiting long to get the points. Resale contracts are constantly being presented for ROFR and Disney will be more aggressive in buying- back if they know they have a customer ready and waiting to pay $100+ per point.

Resale is a bit trickier since you have to buy the contract as it currently exists. If you find the desired resort, number of points and a good price, you may have to overlook the Use Year or just keep on looking.

At the end of the day, it's much, MUCH cleaner to have the same Use Year. Everything will be bundled under a single master membership and you'll never run into any hiccups.

If you own two separate Use Years, you will have two master memberships. The only way to co-mingle points from those contracts is via transfer, which requires a phone call to Member Services. Sort of defeats the purpose of having on-line booking capabilities if you need to make a phone call to complete certain transactions.

Even when making reservations for a single contract, you will probably have two different on-line accounts. Again, more hassle...more confusion.

If you're well versed in the resale market and know it will be difficult to find a Use Year match, you may just have to bite the bullet and expand your interest to other Use Years. But if many potential matches are available, I would favor one which matches an existing UY. Even if it meant paying a couple extra dollars per point for a better match.

If we're talking about 30-50 years of inconvenience vs. a couple hundred dollars more for the points....I would personally pay the money and enjoy the convenience.
__________________
-- Tim

tjkraz is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2013, 10:50 PM   #7
trixiedixie
Community Rank: Globetrotter
 
trixiedixie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: 1299 miles from WDW
Posts: 3,343

Post Thanks / Like
Quote:
Originally Posted by tjkraz View Post
Adding-on direct through Disney...it's largely a moot point. And if you're willing to pay Disney's prices to add-on, it's doubtful you will be waiting long to get the points. Resale contracts are constantly being presented for ROFR and Disney will be more aggressive in buying- back if they know they have a customer ready and waiting to pay $100+ per point.

Resale is a bit trickier since you have to buy the contract as it currently exists. If you find the desired resort, number of points and a good price, you may have to overlook the Use Year or just keep on looking.

At the end of the day, it's much, MUCH cleaner to have the same Use Year. Everything will be bundled under a single master membership and you'll never run into any hiccups.

If you own two separate Use Years, you will have two master memberships. The only way to co-mingle points from those contracts is via transfer, which requires a phone call to Member Services. Sort of defeats the purpose of having on-line booking capabilities if you need to make a phone call to complete certain transactions.

Even when making reservations for a single contract, you will probably have two different on-line accounts. Again, more hassle...more confusion.

If you're well versed in the resale market and know it will be difficult to find a Use Year match, you may just have to bite the bullet and expand your interest to other Use Years. But if many potential matches are available, I would favor one which matches an existing UY. Even if it meant paying a couple extra dollars per point for a better match.

If we're talking about 30-50 years of inconvenience vs. a couple hundred dollars more for the points....I would personally pay the money and enjoy the convenience.

Good points all - Im so glad Im learning this now as I was thinking since we would be using new points for NOV-DEC trips at least the first year or so that a new use year wouldnt be an issue but I can easily see how over the years it would be way more hassle than it was worth....

ugh, I was so excited about resale prices
trixiedixie is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2013, 01:09 PM   #8
Thomhazel
Community Rank: Globetrotter
 
Thomhazel's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 3,288

Post Thanks / Like
I am having the worst time ever contacting my guide to add on points. I have his direct dial but have been calling for over a week and he is never there. I have emailed him but still no luck. Any advice anyone?
__________________
Scottish Hogmanay (with a stolen Picture)

My Countdown Counting down to: WDW, Disney Dream and Universal
Chillin at disney
Thomhazel is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2013, 01:32 PM   #9
chezp
PassPorter Message Board Manager
PassPorter Guide Author

Community Rank:
Legend VIP
 
chezp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Maidstone, Kent, UK
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 190,285

Post Thanks / Like
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomhazel View Post
I am having the worst time ever contacting my guide to add on points. I have his direct dial but have been calling for over a week and he is never there. I have emailed him but still no luck. Any advice anyone?
I'd call Member Services and explain the situation. They should be able to sort something out and they ought to know about the problems you're having.
__________________

Relaxing on board the Magic. The trip report for our back-to-back cruises on the Disney Magic has started!
My Countdown Counting down to: 2019
Happy New Year!
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous Trips21 trips to WDW, 6 to Disneyland in California, 9 to Disneyland Paris, 1 to Hong Kong Disneyland, 1 to Tokyo Disney, 1 to Aulani, 1 to Hilton Head, 2 to Vero Beach and 13 Disney cruises on the Magic, Wonder, Dream and Fantasy
chezp is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2013, 02:59 PM   #10
Brad
Community Rank: Traveler
 
Brad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 445

Post Thanks / Like
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomhazel View Post
I am having the worst time ever contacting my guide to add on points. I have his direct dial but have been calling for over a week and he is never there. I have emailed him but still no luck. Any advice anyone?
I will bet that he is probably on out on a Disney cruise with limited cell / internet service. I agree with Cheryl that you should call MS to explain.
__________________
"Esprits et fantômes sur vos fièrs destriers, Escortez dans la nuit la belle fiancée." -- Madame Leota in Phantom Manor, DL Paris
My Countdown Counting down to: A Polynesian bungalow vacation
Lying on a hammock, enjoying a breeze off of Seven Seas Lagoon!
My Previous TripsOff Prop Apr '89, DLR Sept '01, AKL Sept '02, DLR Paris - multiple trips '03-'05, CR Sept '07, BWI Oct '08, VWL Oct '10 [purchased BLT!], OKW/BLT Dec '11, Aulani Aug/Sept '12, Grand Cali May '13, Treehouse Villas Aug '13, Grand Cali May '14, Universal PF Bay/AKV Dec '14, Poly Bungalows Sep '15
Brad is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 01:21 AM   #11
chezp
PassPorter Message Board Manager
PassPorter Guide Author

Community Rank:
Legend VIP
 
chezp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Maidstone, Kent, UK
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 190,285

Post Thanks / Like
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad View Post
I will bet that he is probably on out on a Disney cruise with limited cell / internet service. I agree with Cheryl that you should call MS to explain.
Our new guide (we swapped on the cruise) is on the cruises all the time with DVC and I've got his email address. I don't suppose you have the email address for your guide Hazel?
__________________

Relaxing on board the Magic. The trip report for our back-to-back cruises on the Disney Magic has started!
My Countdown Counting down to: 2019
Happy New Year!
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous Trips21 trips to WDW, 6 to Disneyland in California, 9 to Disneyland Paris, 1 to Hong Kong Disneyland, 1 to Tokyo Disney, 1 to Aulani, 1 to Hilton Head, 2 to Vero Beach and 13 Disney cruises on the Magic, Wonder, Dream and Fantasy
chezp is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 01:29 AM   #12
Thomhazel
Community Rank: Globetrotter
 
Thomhazel's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 3,288

Post Thanks / Like
I have his email address, member services gave it to me. I am going to give hima little while to reply and if he doesn't i'll call again and see what they can do. It isn't an urgent request but I want to put it to him so it is decided and i can stop thinking about how many to ask for etc.
__________________
Scottish Hogmanay (with a stolen Picture)

My Countdown Counting down to: WDW, Disney Dream and Universal
Chillin at disney
Thomhazel is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-11-2013, 01:37 AM   #13
Thomhazel
Community Rank: Globetrotter
 
Thomhazel's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 3,288

Post Thanks / Like
Although his email address is his name at disney.com so i guess i could have figured that out!
__________________
Scottish Hogmanay (with a stolen Picture)

My Countdown Counting down to: WDW, Disney Dream and Universal
Chillin at disney
Thomhazel is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-14-2013, 03:55 PM   #14
Thomhazel
Community Rank: Globetrotter
 
Thomhazel's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 3,288

Post Thanks / Like
I finally managed to contact our guide and he has added us to the CGV waitlist. He said on average about 4-6 months which is not bad at all.
__________________
Scottish Hogmanay (with a stolen Picture)

My Countdown Counting down to: WDW, Disney Dream and Universal
Chillin at disney
Thomhazel is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 01-15-2013, 01:12 AM   #15
chezp
PassPorter Message Board Manager
PassPorter Guide Author

Community Rank:
Legend VIP
 
chezp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Maidstone, Kent, UK
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 190,285

Post Thanks / Like
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomhazel View Post
I finally managed to contact our guide and he has added us to the CGV waitlist. He said on average about 4-6 months which is not bad at all.
Glad you got hold of him and got that sorted out. with those points.
__________________

Relaxing on board the Magic. The trip report for our back-to-back cruises on the Disney Magic has started!
My Countdown Counting down to: 2019
Happy New Year!
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous Trips21 trips to WDW, 6 to Disneyland in California, 9 to Disneyland Paris, 1 to Hong Kong Disneyland, 1 to Tokyo Disney, 1 to Aulani, 1 to Hilton Head, 2 to Vero Beach and 13 Disney cruises on the Magic, Wonder, Dream and Fantasy
chezp is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Thank you to our forum sponsor:













Please login or register to hide these ads -- it's free and easy!

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:38 PM.

-->

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like v3.4.0 Patch Level 1 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
(c) 1998-2017 PassPorter Travel Press/MediaMarx, Inc.
Celebrating 19 Years of Making Dreams Come True
Ad Management plugin by RedTyger